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by JDM
June 11th, 2012, 8:57 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Holiday Hognose
Replies: 32
Views: 6301

Re: Holiday Hognose

It used to be easier to tell if an area was closed to hunting. There were a number of "National Monuments" that were set aside within the past 15 years that are exceptions. Some were created by the President rather than by Congress and are subject to different rules. In Arizona, I used to be able to...
by JDM
May 24th, 2012, 11:05 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: EDBs might get federal protection!
Replies: 35
Views: 5010

Re: EDBs might get federal protection!

Gerry, I applaud you for seeing this as a difference of opinion. I also hold wildlife and habitat conservation as things that are very important to me, but disagree as to how it should be managed and by whom. There are problems with aspects of both my view as well as yours. An interesting read if yo...
by JDM
May 24th, 2012, 8:21 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: EDBs might get federal protection!
Replies: 35
Views: 5010

Re: EDBs might get federal protection!

First of all, I do not want to or intend to personally attack the individual who made the below comment. My comments that follow are why I disagree strongly with this type of thinking, so please do not take them personally, I am attacking the idea, not the person. "Public comments?? Since when does ...
by JDM
November 18th, 2011, 6:43 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: 2 AMAZING weeks in South Africa, lots of pics
Replies: 32
Views: 9454

Re: 2 AMAZING weeks in South Africa, lots of pics

VERY nice work!!! Very enjoyable post, thank you for sharing!
by JDM
November 11th, 2011, 10:44 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: My End-Of-The-Year report...DU go make dinner
Replies: 26
Views: 3460

Re: My End-Of-The-Year report...DU go make dinner

Excellent work!! Thanks for sharing this!
by JDM
November 11th, 2011, 10:25 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

BTW, I have to ask, did Gerry (gbin) get banned from the site?
by JDM
November 11th, 2011, 10:02 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Retes, You wrote "To lessen the cost of a trip etc. That is so very common." I think you are right to point that out. I do think that this also is a form of commercial collecting that is happening to a certain extent. I have always been much more concerned with a team of 5 or 10 people who are skill...
by JDM
November 11th, 2011, 9:44 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Thank You for Your Service !
Replies: 4
Views: 675

Re: Thank You for Your Service !

I agree. May we remember and honor those who have served our Country. My father and grandfather served, and I lost a great uncle in WWII. They have helped us to preserve our freedoms. Among other more important benefits such as freedom of speech and religion, these freedoms have allowed us to have e...
by JDM
November 11th, 2011, 8:32 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

I finally watched the video on the herp ethics discussion. I think the topic was great. It was good to hear an attempt to define and to clarify the meaning of a "commercial collector". This is something that I had tried to define back much earlier on in this discussion as well. To me, commercial col...
by JDM
November 10th, 2011, 6:50 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Really, has it come to this?
Replies: 190
Views: 26177

Re: Really, has it come to this?

I live in Western Canada and have only garter snakes tiger salamanders and wood frogs within a 5 hour driving radius.
Have you had any luck finding Rubber Boas in W. Canada?
by JDM
November 10th, 2011, 6:38 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: My 2011 rattlesnake photography
Replies: 20
Views: 2453

Re: My 2011 rattlesnake photography

Good job! Thanks for sharing!
by JDM
November 9th, 2011, 1:39 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Really, has it come to this?
Replies: 190
Views: 26177

Re: Really, has it come to this?

Really, has it come to this? We all have our little... and not so little pet quirks... mine is rude anal retentive control freaks on the internet A topic for the anal retentive If there is an error... the anal retentive will pay attention I get a giggle out of putting it to another anal retentive i...
by JDM
November 9th, 2011, 12:09 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Really, has it come to this?
Replies: 190
Views: 26177

Re: Really, has it come to this?

@Brendan: I assume some of your comments are addressed in part to me? :| I take offense when people criticize someone for posting a photo of a common animal in a common locale or runs people off of the forums for asking for help in finding a particular species. I see that reaction constantly on inte...
by JDM
November 9th, 2011, 11:01 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Wow, What a Year!!! It doesn't Get Any Better Than This!!!
Replies: 49
Views: 9528

Re: Wow, What a Year!!! It doesn't Get Any Better Than This

Great work and excellent photography!!!
by JDM
November 9th, 2011, 9:26 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Really, has it come to this?
Replies: 190
Views: 26177

Re: Really, has it come to this?

@CC: What can be done about the habitat destroyers? I wish I knew. That really sucks about your willardi spot. If the rocks can still perform their previous function, though, and stupid herpers, or possibly just stupid hikers, don't keep pressuring the spot, my guess is that it will be used again in...
by JDM
November 9th, 2011, 7:36 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Really, has it come to this?
Replies: 190
Views: 26177

Re: Really, has it come to this?

Not sure where your getting your information from? The most mondane and well known coastal boa spot has 2 to 8 herpers turning rocks every week there.. If you post a picture of a boa from spot A, there will be a lot of herpers At spot A the following week. Not sure what you are getting at. I am get...
by JDM
November 8th, 2011, 11:36 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Really, has it come to this?
Replies: 190
Views: 26177

Re: Really, has it come to this?

A few observations: Since the early days of the internet, the alterna page has had very specific locality information about a highly prized species by collectors, the gray banded kingsnake. You can look up, by county, a list of roads where they can be collected from, habitat shots, collection record...
by JDM
November 1st, 2011, 7:26 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Crotes being crotes
Replies: 93
Views: 7266

Re: Crotes being crotes

Great photos and information, Brendan! It's always a pleasure to see what you have to share. I get out so infrequently these days that it is always nice to see what others are turning up in the field. The "hands off" view is great for gaining the behavioral observation and understanding that you see...
by JDM
October 28th, 2011, 7:34 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

The "hands off" theory is only acceptable if it is NOT forced upon everyone else. The "hands off" theory is a voluntary approach. The only problem is that many who advocate that approach DO try to force it upon others. Herping ethics should be a guide to improving our behavior while herping, not to ...
by JDM
October 25th, 2011, 8:34 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

I believe that if studies were done to determine the changes that occur when boardlines are set out in an area they would likely find that the overall population of many herps would increase. Herps, in general, naturally overproduce what nature can support. If this were not the case, then population...
by JDM
October 19th, 2011, 9:41 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

lashinala2 , I too am a merit badge counselor for the reptile and amphibian study merit badge. The requirements do not say that you need to collect a reptile from the wild. They do not even need to keep a herp. They can keep a herp for credit, but they do not need to. I usually maintain my own capt...
by JDM
October 18th, 2011, 7:43 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

A good and much needed summary, jonathan.
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 11:04 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Poll: Definition of 'Field Herping'
Replies: 54
Views: 16554

Re: Poll: Definition of 'Field Herping'

Aaron, you make some good points. BillMcGighan, the problem I have is with the implied "shoulds" that you mention. "The hobby of observing and searching for wild amphibians and reptiles, motivated by a desire to enjoy and appreciate them." It doesn't necessarily have to be a hobby. For example, a ho...
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 9:59 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

jonathan,

On your list I would fall under #2 "...What matters is our impact on the sustainability of populations and ecosystems"

We want to maintain the sustainability of both populations and ecosystems....for human benefit.
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 9:35 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Poll: Definition of 'Field Herping'
Replies: 54
Views: 16554

Re: Poll: Definition of 'Field Herping'

hellihooks,

I agree with much of what you just said!

I don't get a good feeling about the initial proposed definition in this thread.

I get a better feeling about this definition: "Searching for wild amphibians and reptiles, motivated by a desire to enjoy and appreciate them."
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 9:27 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

jonathan , What I am saying is something which supercedes and is greater than the list of ethical priorities. I have outlined the actual purpose for the creation of our current wildlife management agencies. I simply am stating that a set of herping ethics should not violate the purpose for wildlife...
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 8:59 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Retes , I agree with your statement where you said So its my thought that, our impact or future impact on the animals we use, is the prime concern of this forum The problem I have is that it seems like you misunderstand (or that is my perception, maybe it is I who misunderstand you) that the purpos...
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 7:28 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Are these FIELD HERPERS?
Replies: 59
Views: 8250

Re: Are these FIELD HERPERS?

The definition of fishing (which was brought up in one of these threads to draw a comparison), according to http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fishing is: 1: the sport or business of catching fish So for field herping, I modified it to be: 1: the sport or business of catching or observing rep...
by JDM
October 12th, 2011, 6:40 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Poll: Definition of 'Field Herping'
Replies: 54
Views: 16554

Re: Poll: Definition of 'Field Herping'

I am not sure how you have permissions to post a poll, but these two polls would be much more useful: The term field herping means: pursuing herps in the field to photograph, observe, or collect data only. pursuing herps in the field to photograph, observe, collect data, or responsibly collect. purs...
by JDM
October 10th, 2011, 7:18 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Should the term "field herping" exclude animal collecting?
Replies: 230
Views: 191551

Re: Should the term "field herping" exclude animal collectin

BTW, JDM, I was going to send you a pm, to applogise for the temporary conformational bias, I suffered, towards you... but now that it's been made public, I'll do it publicly... sorry bout that. :roll: I appreciate what you've had to say, since then... :thumb: jim hellihooks , I appreciate that. So...
by JDM
October 7th, 2011, 12:55 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Are these FIELD HERPERS?
Replies: 59
Views: 8250

Re: Are these FIELD HERPERS?

Field Herpers are people who search for herps in the field. The photos of those selling herps in a marketplace are not field herping. Some of the photos are of people who are very primitive field herpers. Others are herpers that are field herping for show business. The guys who field herp for rattle...
by JDM
October 7th, 2011, 7:46 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Should the term "field herping" exclude animal collecting?
Replies: 230
Views: 191551

Re: Should the term "field herping" exclude animal collectin

Would birding include collecting birds to keep in cages then? To me it doesn't. I agree that to me the term birding doesn't make me think about collecting birds to keep in cages. There is also a term birdwatching that is almost used interchangeably with birding in todays world. This is probably bec...
by JDM
October 6th, 2011, 2:00 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Should the term "field herping" exclude animal collecting?
Replies: 230
Views: 191551

Re: Should the term "field herping" exclude animal collectin

Gerry, I had a similar idea this morning and asked the moderator if we could open up a poll on the site. Here is what I requested for the poll: The term field herping means: A. pursuing herps in the field to photograph, observe, or collect data only. B. pursuing herps in the field to photograph, obs...
by JDM
October 5th, 2011, 11:25 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Is it legal to collect herps on Catalina Island, CA?
Replies: 60
Views: 4535

Re: Is it legal to collect herps on Catalina Island, CA?

RobK I haven't witnessed this "push" you described, has it been on threads here on the FHF or personal experiences? This has been my personal observation of several field herping forums going back at least a decade. My phrase "almost militant" was being used as almost "aggressively pursuing", not a...
by JDM
October 5th, 2011, 8:51 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Is it legal to collect herps on Catalina Island, CA?
Replies: 60
Views: 4535

Re: Is it legal to collect herps on Catalina Island, CA?

Sorry, peterknuteberg , but I also got the same impression that Gerry and Lloyd did about your post. There is a rising, aggressive, and almost militant push to invalidate the views of anyone who may not share the view that collecting should never be acceptable. (I am not referring to you specificall...
by JDM
October 4th, 2011, 10:16 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

I propose something similar, but better worded, to the herp ethics list: - If you choose to collect, adhere to all local laws and ordinances . Many governments restrict the collection of reptiles and amphibians or require a permit to do so. Some species are completely protected from any form of coll...
by JDM
October 4th, 2011, 7:45 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Is it legal to collect herps on Catalina Island, CA?
Replies: 60
Views: 4535

Re: Is it legal to collect herps on Catalina Island, CA?

Field herping = pursuing herps in the field, regardless of whether the intent is to photograph, observe or collect. Ethical field herpers will respect laws and the property rights of others. Aaron asked if it were legal to collect. This is part of following and respecting the law. If he were a legal...
by JDM
September 29th, 2011, 10:55 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Jimi , excellent recap with great comments on this entire thread. I would agree with some posters here that a "hands off" approach with utilization, while offering no protection from other forms of impact, is a violation of the Public Trust. In my experience utilization is a minor impact that is no...
by JDM
September 28th, 2011, 1:40 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Gerry, Duly noted. I agree with you. I mis-used the word protect when I meant preserve . Conservation is protecting a resource to ensure its continual sustainable use, so protection is not necessarily a bad word for me either. JAMAUGHN, thank you for your input into this discussion, I believe you pr...
by JDM
September 28th, 2011, 10:30 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Excellent points made by all. I agree that Man is dependent upon the Earth for sustenance. The only way, however, for the Earth to sustain Man, is for it to be used to some degree. If you refuse to place people above habitats, then you would be unwilling to develop land (habitat) for farming for foo...
by JDM
September 28th, 2011, 8:06 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

I appreciate those who are able to disagree with my position to a certain degree, but to do so in a moderate, respectful, and reasoned way, such as gbin and joeysgreen . The idea that people are more important than wildlife is, apparently, very controversial....even being as vague as it is. I find i...
by JDM
September 27th, 2011, 3:06 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Ribbit (John), You are quite right. My one liner phrase is much too vague to be of much use. You are also right that I do not mean, "anything any person wants to do is more important than any impact it might have on any amount of wildlife". The expression of that phrase hopefully became somewhat cl...
by JDM
September 27th, 2011, 10:36 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

joeysgreen (Ian), I am glad that you pointed out where we agree before discussing where our opinions differ. We often agree on many things and it is good to acknowledge that. As far as where we disagree, it is mainly a philosophical difference. Ultimately it comes down to this: I believe that peopl...
by JDM
September 26th, 2011, 10:21 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

One more thing I would like to mention that I failed to include in my previous post. Herping ethics should strongly encourage herpers to NOT release captive animals into nature, neither non-native herps nor native herps. Herps kept in a captive environment have the potential to introduce foreign dis...
by JDM
September 26th, 2011, 9:10 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 499426

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

Regarding the collecting of wild herps: I think that this is something that ought to be permissible much more so than it is currently. While I have the tendency to disagree with permitting commercial collection (defined as collecting herps with the intent to sell more than a certain number of them a...
by JDM
August 26th, 2011, 11:06 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Over what period of time have you herp hunted in AZ?
Replies: 27
Views: 3755

Re: Over what period of time have you herp hunted in AZ?

I started herping when I lived in Fort Huachuca when I was a kid in 1982. I was only able to herp in the neighborhood, never got into the sky islands at that time. I found only lizards back then. I herped whenever I got a chance as a kid and didn't finally start herping for real until I got my first...