Field Herp Forum

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It's almost certainly gone. Rats are very thorough, sad to say.

Are you surprised? Contrary to the convictions of some folks, AP has never been about education or conservation but rather about sponsors and revenue. That's not just Animal Planet - that sums up television in general. IMO, a whole lot of the things that are wrong with this country can be laid at t...

I don't see the point, really, Gerry. It's clear that next to no one is willing to publicly, clearly and unambiguously answer your title question in the affirmative. I confess I'm mildly surprised, but nonetheless pleased.

I'm afraid I just can't find anything to laugh about in that kind of behavior, Daryl... :( It was sarcasm Gerry. Just my twisted way of making fun of those that are so desperate to disassociate themselves from the very foundation of herping that they would sooner steal a historically inclusive term...

Back in the early days of the term (the mid-1970s), "herping" meant we were going out to look for herps-and we made no real distinction between collecting and observing/photographing. We referred to ourselves as "Herpers" , and "herping" was just what we did. If we found a nice specimen and had room...

side gets upset because they feel they're being harassed by conservationists and should be able to do and post what they want with impunity. I don't think this is necessarily the case. I think almost everyone on this board thinks of themselves as a conservationist, whether they handle/harass the an...

I think the discussion of collecting vs. noncollecting is more of a historical debate. I don't remember that being a strong issue here recently, partly because many of the former participants have moved on and partly because most of the people on here either do not collect or are not vocal about th...

Daryl, we're lucky to live in Texas-the most one could figure out from the majority of our photos is which grade of asphalt the county road crew is using

Dan, I apologize if my objections were too strongly worded. But I have to say the more I think about this idea, the more reprehensible I find it. Regardless of the severity (which I think is at least debatable) of the problem it seeks to address, it's just the opposite of the direction I feel we've ...

BEST ISSUE YET !!!!

Such an idea is antithetical to that which I believe should be the inclusive ethos of the Herp Nation as a whole, while also being doomed to almost immediate and inevitable failure as a practical undertaking. A bad and counterproductive concept on every level. There's no way to do it without throwin...

Well, you've saved me a lot of typing. In general I can only echo the above. Since moving to Texas from the northeast, my views concerning personal collection have liberalized somewhat, certainly. Here, vast tracts of habitat-indeed areas greater than some northeastern states-are totally inaccessibl...

I've seen tons of baby Regina, and that's not. Tropidoclonion for sure.

Definitely insular Epicrates-notice the lack of labial pits. Does not look much like angulifer, I'm going with Epicrates striatus.

What island is this from-takes me back to my youth visiting the big island (Andros)-Alsophis v. vudii was the most common snake encountered. Fast, variable, rear-fanged-but never bite.

Nothing at all about that pic says anything to me other than nasicus. That said, I'd like to see the loreal.

Hans, it's always a treat to see one of your posts. PLEASE keep it up!

I purchased the TK41 this Spring, and was able to use it on a Trans-Pecos trip in June. All I can say is that it is quite simply awesome. Unbelievable amount of light combined with an equally phenomenal run time. I have no criticism whatsoever. It turns a nighttime cut into day.

Awesome app-thanks!

chris_mcmartin wrote:

BChambers wrote:the South Texas Herp society.

You mean the South Texas Herp ASSOCIATION? (http://www."not allowed"/stha) Apparently there was a small falling-out 10 years or so ago and they changed to "STHA."

Yes-didn't know of the drama-way before my time I'm afraid.

SWCHR here as well-great group! Also, Turtle Survival Alliance, SSAR, IIRC, Upstate Herpetological Association (NY-Founding member), and the South Texas Herp society.

Amazing-reminds me of when the full range and complexity of Crocodilian maternal behavior was first uncovered.

Scott, what are you thinking as to length? Certainly sounds interesting (I majored in Journalism and Zoology at Ohio State and would not mind an outlet for this annoying writing itch ).

But the process did not end there. Because the Senate amremded the bill or actually replaced it with a substitute bill before they passed it, the bill then had to be sent back to the House to be voted on again because of the Senate amendments/changes. At this point the House's prior vote on the bil...

jcraft wrote: Hatchet buried/water under the bridge, your choice.

John

Agreed.

Brad, Again, since my words hold no weight... Ask Joe Forks his interpretation of the 2/3 vote. We had this discussion yesterday on KS. I'm just trying to to present the facts. You are free to do as you wish, like I said. John And what part of my statement you above quoted was not factual? But conv...

Well, I would suggest that you take what I have to say with some reservation. I am but a newbie, with limited posts, and haven't yet established the credibility necessary to take what I say at face value. Perhaps you would be better served heeding the advice given by one of this forums respected se...

Maybe the fact he pushed them out rather than cut them out was the key?

That's quite a shot-not often you can find that many closely-related species (both Taxonomically and Ecologically) in the same spot.

I've even had a snake die in the middle of oviposition, immediately cut out the remaining eggs and set them up for incubation. no luck.

Very good shooting-love the parrot snake predation.

Almost never works. But for some reason it can work with turtles. But not snakes.

HSUS has had a definite "presence" in some AP programming, though.

That is a humbling testament to the power of natural selection. Amazing.

I"M argumentative?? :lol: :lol: :lol: I edited your remarks below to remove the diatribe and what was covered earlier in the thread.. There wasn't much left. Chambers you are unconscionable. I will not debate issues with a moron. You call me a liar and then you slander me. You are incapable of havin...

Wow, that Coral-belly. Wow.

Brad, The next time I'm in Dallas I'll grab my hard drive and post some photos from years past if that's what qualifies you to post an opinion on this forum. You can also wander over to KS and take a look at my contributions to that site, or check out my listing under the alterna approved breeders ...

The argument is whether commercial collecting on Texas roads is comparable to that of non-commercial take, and if those takes are sustainable. I say that both have a minimal impact on the species in these areas, the takes are sustainable, and should be recognized as such. John John And the only doc...

LMAO-guess i struck a nerve. :lol: You're providing NO data, only ill-founded suppositions on your part. YOU get serious. If you stick around here, you'll soon find that most of the members don't collect at all, and pursue herps for photography purposes only. Your "supposition" that the herpers who ...

I certainly agree, Ej-I was being a bit sarcastic. There's SOME possibility our friend Mr. Welker has been making phone calls. ;) I'm pretty confident in saying that is not the case. Look at the posts over the years. I'm sure there are idiots who monitor these forums (You gotta realize this is not t...

Some of the main reasons why an animal is taken out of the wild is either to be sold, given away, or to be put in somebody’s personal collection. The bottom line is that the animal was taken out of the wild, regardless of one’s intentions. Period. Kyle As I pointed out above, the difference is numb...

Let me preface this by saying that I do not condone the unsustainable collection of any species of animal. And yet, this will never be an issue if you define ALL collecting as "sustainable", as apparently you do. ;) As Mike has stated, he has provided herps for legitimate scientific research and mu...

Great shots guys! We certainly did better than expected on that trip, eh? Love the spadefoot pic.

As usual, Daryl has reasonably and succinctly laid out the base issues here. I basically agree, though perhaps I feel more strongly about some, and based on my past experiences with the party involved, am far less likely to take what he says at anything close to face value. That's particularly true ...

So far this thread has it all-great shots and funny replies .

Seriously, that milk and those collareds are awesome.

I don’t make my living by being a commercial collector. I make my living by breeding rodents so you are wrong again Brad, as usual. I will have to get back to my rodents after this response. I sold a grand total of 82 herps last year Welkerii Just thought I'd let you refute your own point, since I'...

That's easy, Mike-a commercial collector is one who makes his living by capturing wild reptiles and amphibians and selling them. You are a commercial collector. I'm not-nor are any of the other regulars on this forum, at least those I've come to know over the years. You seem to wonder why your posts...

This fact is why we should be allowed to do what we do. Okay Brad, define “real commercial collector?” Anyone selling a wild caught herp that they collected is a commercial collector. Anyone buying a wild caught herp is supporting commercial collection. Anyone trading wild caught herps they collect...

It doesn't matter how sustainable commercial collecting is-the reason the road ban law passed in the first place was that a couple of the higher ups in TPW LE were able to sell the "narrative" (that every snake hunter in the Trans-Pecos was getting rich by catching and selling rare reptiles) to the ...