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by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 9:23 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Agreed... I may be mistaken but wasn't the N.A. Lampropeltine subfamily reshuffled/reviewed fairly recently and most of the subspecific splitting was retained?If so I cannot for the life of me understand why..... Not trying to be difficult here I'm just asking and admit I don't feel like digging up ...
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 9:08 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

In all seriousness can we get Mariah Carey in here for the sunday chat thing?webcam maybe ?
Brick, Dragon, Kyle can you guys pull some strings?
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 8:59 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Akula wrote: If it's over aesthetics alone then that's just silly...
....And yet there's countless subsecies of various species that were based on this that are still recognized today .....
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 8:53 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

I'm not going to do the research for you, but it boils-down to this: There's no morphological (coloration, scalation, behavioral, etc) or genetic (molecular) reasons for the subspecies elevation. And, from my understanding of the biology, it's all about differences within a population versus betwee...
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 8:26 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Akula wrote:But there's still no justification for atricaudatus. Period.
As subspecies are still recognized-could you explain why it is any less ‘justifiable’ than any other subspecies-say, those of L.triangulum? Or L. getula?
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 7:10 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Headin' out to save some rattlers.......Note her cherry red rattler chaps!

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by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:53 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

And thanks for teaching us that PA FIREFIGHTERS REALLY DO LIKE RATTLERS! PA FIREFIGHTERS AND YOU-SAVING THE TIMBER RATTLER, ONE ROUNDUP AT A TIME. :beer: And I always assumed it was so they could raise more beer money or furnish their firehouse with a new flatscreen,maybe a new gas grill or a nice c...
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:47 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Python Guy wrote:because I dont want to have to drive 5-7 depending on traffic to do it

'5-7''-what,minutes?miles?days?
Whatever.Ok so laziness basically.....Thanks for your honesty :thumb:
Hey good luck!
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:40 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Python Guy wrote:
ugh wrote:
Python Guy wrote: um I dont think walking five miles in one way to a place on a hunch would be considered sitting on my ass.
Did you find anything?

Yeah actually we found alot
Cool-so why not go with your hunch again,or better yet what you learned from this previous 'excursion/trek'?
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:35 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Python Guy wrote: um I dont think walking five miles in one way to a place on a hunch would be considered sitting on my ass.
Did you find anything?
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:22 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Ok yeh I gotcha. Thanks for explaining- I almost assumed it was because you figured it be easier to first throw out some feelers online-you know, see what you could come up with, all while sittin' on your ass. Like Dragon pointed out it’s a process, a learning curve. If there’s one thing I’d stress ...
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:10 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Hi everyone, I was just wondering if there are any good rattlesnake spots near the NJ/PA line. I rattlesnake hunt in potter county pa but that is 5hrs from me. If anyone has any info or spots that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and have a nice day! Tyler Young Why are you asking us for locali...
by ugh
November 5th, 2011, 6:00 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?
Replies: 191
Views: 16018

Re: Rattlesnake areas along NJ/PA line?

Hi everyone, I was just wondering if there are any good rattlesnake spots near the NJ/PA line. I rattlesnake hunt in potter county pa but that is 5hrs from me. If anyone has any info or spots that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and have a nice day! Tyler Young Why are you asking us for locali...
by ugh
November 2nd, 2011, 2:21 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Also, I can't help but think of Copperheads when I read this discussion. I have seen Northern Copperheads utilize high elevation rock outcroppings in Oak/Hickory forest as dens, right along side Timbers. I have also seen them on the DelMarVa peninsula a couple hundred miles away living in Loblolly ...
by ugh
October 31st, 2011, 9:19 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Lake Erie Watersnakes
Replies: 22
Views: 3921

Re: Lake Erie Watersnakes

Recently removed from the Federal List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife, the Lake Erie watersnake population rose from an estimated 1500-2000 individuals in 1999 to 11,980 in 2009. This comeback was achieved through habitat restoration and preservation, and public education. Thanks for looking...
by ugh
October 31st, 2011, 4:19 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Arizona/Mexico 2011
Replies: 54
Views: 9360

Re: Arizona/Mexico 2011

Too sweet,all those crotes....lotsa clean,top quality shots 8-)
And the looks I get when I say I (still)wanna check out Mexico......LOL
by ugh
October 30th, 2011, 5:15 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

justinm wrote:...... Southern Illinois is the foothills of the Smokies. If you've not been there, it's very hilly, not like Central Flat Illinois (plains).
I thought the 'smokies' were along the TN/NC border.
by ugh
October 29th, 2011, 9:53 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Stohlgren wrote:
Mha2345 wrote:(What I consider to be) "Canebrakes" found outside of coastal plain:
I agree that the second and third animals (same snake?) definitely look like canebrakes. Where from?
Clearly different snakes-compare the anterior dorsal patterns
by ugh
October 29th, 2011, 9:04 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Milksnake Hibernaculum
Replies: 62
Views: 5520

Re: Milksnake Hibernaculum

I look at that picture of a handful of snakes pulled from the mouth of a hibernaculum and I can't help but realize that this fellow totally missed the recent conversations about taking in-situ wildlife photos. He's probably the nicest guy in the world, but totally missed the relevant discussions pe...
by ugh
October 29th, 2011, 8:20 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Kris,VAn,et al.-I think my point was misenterpreted- no I'm not sweating for the well-being of those se VA cities' TR's. I was just reminding folks that it's never a bad idea to get out of the habit of naming specific locales-even counties and yes cities-just as a general rule of thumb/concept unles...
by ugh
October 28th, 2011, 3:20 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Reread above,you actually answered your own question,you named two towns.Why did this need to be mentioned how was it essential to the point?It wasn't-so why not get outta the habit of throwing specifics around? You're a herper,do you not agree,that this should be elementary to a herper?.....Like y...
by ugh
October 28th, 2011, 3:05 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

ig·no·rant/ˈignərənt/ Adjective: Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of astronomy". Looks like the second definition fits perfectly. Harry Greene I think a few of us may have ...
by ugh
October 28th, 2011, 2:42 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Can you be more specific in your criticism (ironic much lol)? The only town names in this thread are Chesapeake and Newport News, which are large pretty large towns where the chances of finding timbers without significant local knowledge and effort are about zilch. Ugh (pun intended).... :beer: Rer...
by ugh
October 28th, 2011, 1:29 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

justinm wrote: .......so the asterisk is hilarious. DNA, habitat, behavior none of it makes them a different animal. To say anything else frankly sounds ignorant..

Wow.
Maybe a somewhat rigid remark?

Btw I smell a big fugly stinkin' can 'o worms here.... :roll:
by ugh
October 28th, 2011, 1:20 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Canebrake dens?
Replies: 130
Views: 21718

Re: Canebrake dens?

Let's watch the specifics in the discussion,esp. specific locales,even naming couties let alone towns,etc.....So much detail(though seemingly harmless 'common knowledge' to some) is unnecessary for productive discussion and unwarranted/unwise here huh?Thanks
by ugh
October 27th, 2011, 3:23 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Milksnake Hibernaculum
Replies: 62
Views: 5520

Re: Milksnake Hibernaculum

Ross Padilla wrote:That's awesome. I've never heard of that with Milks. It would have been cool if you could have got the real in situ. :thumb:
Ditto,I was salivating to see such a shot as I clicked on the post.Don't suppose you snapped one as you walked up to it?
Feelin' the sweatshirt. :thumb:
by ugh
October 22nd, 2011, 3:33 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Another Winding Down post because why not
Replies: 6
Views: 812

Re: Another Winding Down post because why not

brick911 wrote:.....I'm going with laterale x jeffersonium complex.

Definitely agree.
Wish we had some blue spotteds down my way, love those beauties.
by ugh
October 21st, 2011, 5:10 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Crotes being crotes
Replies: 93
Views: 7214

Re: Crotes being crotes

It's been said over and over to you Brendan but let me add-amazing amazing photos and kickass observations. Re:your stephensi shenanigans-your style of herping-handsoff and nonintrusive-has led you to know what you're seeing and thus don't feel so compelled to get so close to the action as to interf...
by ugh
October 21st, 2011, 2:41 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)
Replies: 612
Views: 497894

Re: A Discussion of Herping Ethics (warning: long winded)

You talk about ethics yet the use and creation of AC lines is promoted here. You do understand, thats illegal to do in most cases. ALso using AC lines is behaviorally altering the animals natural behavior. Your attracting individual animals to behave in a way that was not there before people placed...
by ugh
October 21st, 2011, 2:33 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

I think that is fair. ....wait dragon. are you an eagle scout? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The eagle scout line- I found that hilarious. I'm sorry but one more thing-PLEASE don't give us that community BULLSHIT because I sure didn't pick up on much of that share-the-love kind of vibe coming...
by ugh
October 20th, 2011, 1:32 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

JAMAUGHN wrote:Would you all mind taking a second to indulge a newbie-ish question regarding all of this? What exactly constitutes a den?

JAMAUGHN When I use the term Den I'm refering to the actual/immediate area where the snakes overwinter.
by ugh
October 20th, 2011, 1:14 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Alan- Since you essentially called me out I figured I should reply.This guy's not what I'd consider a fellow anything of mine.We both like snakes,that's not enough in common for me to feel some sort of obligation to rally behind him.... This 'amazing guy' as you described him, 'honorable' as he may ...
by ugh
October 20th, 2011, 5:17 am
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

If the law says that you may not possess those animals in the state, no matter the origin, all they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt is that he was in possession of the animals. Perhaps you missed Daniel Parker's post on the first page. Apparently GA gives an exception to the ban for the pur...
by ugh
October 20th, 2011, 4:50 am
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Since this keeps coming up, can someone point out where any rights of this guy's were violtaed? Because I don't see it.
I just hear a bunch of folks coming out of the woodwork with lots of idealist/righteous bellyaching.
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 8:00 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: winding down
Replies: 19
Views: 1600

Re: winding down

pete wrote:Justin, dO IT!! you've got the time.... it's way cool to watch ;)
I just may...you're right.What a great way to spend the day,cool project...Ok camera will be in tow of course 8-)
btw how'd you guess Kyle's great horned had just made a kill?
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 7:53 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

I mean, isn't what you just descrbed above pretty much THE ENIRE WORLD?(yeah, even our beloved US of A.) I suppose so...and you're apparently on board with it from your Lol yeah in this case I'm pretty much ok with that. GASP!But...but...his rights!lol little quote....either you're on board or you'...
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 7:15 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Good to know that you have no qualms with a state butchering it's native wildlife on one hand while on the other hand potentially violating a citizen's rights while he (quite possibly) could have been 100% legal (it's that annoying little legal thing called "the presumption of innocence" lol) LOL e...
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 6:58 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Ok, so if the guy legally acquired both Pituophis and Heterodon in Florida, yet was arrested for possession of these animals in Georgia, your sympathy is nil? Really? -Kris Lol yeah in this case I'm pretty much ok with that. GASP!But...but...his rights!lol Look there's no more going on here than yo...
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 6:48 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Yeah I know it won't likely save any species from eventual extirpation,but don't you see any good in the fact the state has laws protecting their native herps?And is actually enforcing them? I do,absolutely.Hey it beats not having any laws on the books at all,otherwise it'd be a frickin free-for-al...
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 6:25 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Let me clarify,I wasn't saying I'm glad he got put in jail. I mean glad that they're enforcing they're laws. Who said it was great?Yeah, they prohibit the captive keeping of native nonvenomous snakes, yet you can collect, keep, or butcher as many pit vipers as you wish. Great laws. Van Who said it ...
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 7:45 am
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

Well, again ,we need to know the species in question.But that's besides the point-how does the le officer know he got them in florida?they're protected in ga...he was in ga when he was busted...without a permit....pretty simple really.again-where's the misinterpretation?i don't see it. Look we got e...
by ugh
October 19th, 2011, 6:19 am
Forum: News
Topic: Anyone know this guy?
Replies: 73
Views: 17329

Re: Anyone know this guy?

what species were they? Daniel,what are you saying is a misenterpretation of the law? Dude had protected species in his posession.end of story. You claim 'prejudice against herp people' as if he was profiled or something;what's this prejudice you mention? I thought he lived in florida,you're saying ...
by ugh
October 17th, 2011, 3:02 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: winding down
Replies: 19
Views: 1600

Re: winding down

Keepin' it Real I see.....pretty crazy owl shot,that second one.ya bastard.
I'm thinkin' it's prime time for a rock dove excursion, as one might call it
:beer: :thumb:
by ugh
October 15th, 2011, 3:57 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

Mike it looks to me like the big male just has a broken rattle.Actually both snakes' rattles are broken,the male's is just shorter.
by ugh
October 15th, 2011, 1:12 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

incuhead2000 wrote:I just realized the black one was two rattlers, nice shot! Any thoughts on why the rattles would vary in size so much? Could it be damage, genetics, or any other possible cause?

Mike,are you talking about the number of segments on each snakes' rattle?
by ugh
October 15th, 2011, 1:10 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

And Justin, I too have apprehensions about submitting records for some species that are of higher concern. Also can't help but be concerned about who is going to use the info. Are one of the many teachers involved in the program going to take students to a locale that I submitted? Is someone involv...
by ugh
October 14th, 2011, 4:13 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: San Francisco, East Texas, and the Blue Ridge
Replies: 21
Views: 2439

Re: San Francisco, East Texas, and the Blue Ridge

Yeah that looks like a ton of time spent to see and photograph all of those salamanders-and yes they're great shots.

IMHO coachwhips and broadbanded h2o's are higly underrated-never see enough of them here-great pics of both.

No luck with ruthveni in east texas?
by ugh
October 14th, 2011, 2:23 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

justinm wrote:This was the most amazing Timber I've ever seen! Do you have more pics of this gem?
no other pics of either of those snakes....In the two visits since that pic was taken two years ago,I didn't happen across either snake.
by ugh
October 14th, 2011, 1:40 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

I remember the thread you speak of when it comes to helping herps, and recently I have been contributing some of my findings to MARA and did attend a meeting to meet some of the folks involved. -Mike Mike I definitely appreciate the candid remarks. No doubt you and yours have been getting around an...
by ugh
October 14th, 2011, 1:19 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Rattlers no.56
Replies: 130
Views: 10348

Re: Rattlers no.56

Believe it or not, it isn't difficult to publish field research without including locality specifics I didn't know that-that was indeed my biggest reservation,not that I can be sure I wouldn't get shot down in short order anyway in the process of peer review.......If that's the case I wonder why so...