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 Post subject: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:42 am 
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Here are a few critters that didn't deserve their own special post. I hope someone will still find them interesting :-)

This one is the longest (not largest, though) snake I've ever seen here. After a day of hiking, were on the way back in the late afternoon. Rounding a trail bend, the corner of my eye caught this strange-looking dead branch sticking out from the trailside leaf litter. A second look almost made me choke on my trail mix - branch, my ass! This was a seven-foot Zaocys dhumnades, aka Big-Eyed Rat Snake, aka Knife Crossing The Mountain (hey, Scott L., what do the locals call them on your side of the Taiwan Strait?), trying to get to the small canal on the far side of the trail. My friend was walking ahead of me, totally oblivious to the snake, so I yanked him back by the backpack and hissed in his ear "if you move so much as an eyelid, I'm gonna do horrible things to you with the snake tongs!". Slowly, I put down my pack, got out the camera, and managed to fire off a few shots before the snake slithered into a low tree on the side of the trail, where it waited for us to hike on so he could get his drink. No luck, though: there was a ten-strong group of Taiwanese hikers coming up behind us - grampaw, granny, kids, the whole family - who were naturally curious about what on Earth the two bignoses seemed so worked up about. I grasped the opportunity for a little show-and-tell about the large serpent hiding in the foliage just a couple yards away, and much excitement ensued. Unfortunately, we were running out of time, as we needed to be back in town an hour later, so I couldn't hang around and wait for the snake to come out and cross the trail again. As you can see, the pix are total crap - the light was too low for a fast shutter speed, I was too flabbergasted to think of increasing the ISO, and there was no time to get out the external flash, so using the onboard flash resulted in a bright trail and a dark snake :-(

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DOR Amphiesma stolata, aka Buff-Striped Keelback, aka Flower Wave Snake (you gotta love Chinese!), a "common species of non-venomous colubrid snake found across Asia. It is a typically non-aggressive snake that feeds on frogs and toads. It belongs to the subfamily Natricinae, and is closely related to water snakes" (Thank you, Wikipedia)

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Another Asian/Greater Green Snake (Cyclophiops major)

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....and its shockingly fearless handler.

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Quite a bit of our herping time is spent on patrolling drainage pipe openings in landslide-prevention embankments. There's always something - during the day, they're occupied by nocturnal snakes, while diurnal creatures sleep in them when it's dark. This is a Cat Snake (Boiga kraepelini). They're more attractive when riding motorcycles, though :-)

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Kuehne's Grass Lizard, Takydromus kuehnei. Not much to narrate here, apart from the fact that they're %$#@! paranoid and thus %$#@!! hard to photograph.

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White-Lipped Treefrog, Polypedates megacephalus.

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Brown Treefrog, aka Robust Buerger's Frog, aka Buergeria robusta. These large treefrogs (over three inches) have an eerie call that sounds like someone's knocking on the edge of a wooden table with the back of a large Bowie knife.

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Swinhoe's Frog, Rana swinhoana. This beautiful anuran infests wet walls (permanently wet embankments) and the drainage pipes in them in great numbers.

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Guenther's (Amoy) Frog, Rana guentheri. The largest endemic frog in TW is endowed with enormous leaping power.

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The Chinese Mitten Crab (Eriocheir sinensis) is in season in April and May, when they can be found in all classy seafood shops and restaurants - even the local 7-11 sell them (on order). We spotted this specimen in a roadside ditch, and at about eight inches from toe to toe it's easily the largest I've ever seen - in the wild or on the dinner table.

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Whip scorpion, Typopeltis crucifer. The peculiar English common name, "vinegaroon" stems from the fact that these creatures spray acetic acid around when disturbed....a fact I wasn't aware of but learned quickly when all of us suddenly started reeking of concentrated vinegar :-)

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Another night, another large phasmid (no ID) - it's almost embarrassing how I managed to overlook them all these years!

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Men at work. Three primo snake-spotting realms merge on these mountain roads - the anti-landslide walls with their myriads of drainage holes, the ditches with their leaf litter, and the roads with their crossing potential.

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The Road Crew - the Twoton brood and their buddy, Li Yi-fang. She's truly a girl after our hearts: no fear of snakes, spiders and scorpions, and no "arewethereyet"-ing even during the longest cruising nights!

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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:54 am 
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Nice stuff and such! I thoroughly enjoyed the Boiga-in-the-hole shot. Really cool snake. The Cyclophiops ain't too shabby, either, but the show-stealer is the Thelyphonid (Typopeltis crucifer). What an awesome bug.

While on the invertebrate rant, do you have any photos of the Scorpions native to your area?

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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:28 pm 
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Hi Cole

thanks for the laurels! There are no other scorpions but the vinegaroon in North Taiwan; only in the far South.


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:14 pm 
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Twoton,

Just a reply to say that even though I don't comment on all your posts, I read them and enjoy each and every one.

It's great to get to e-herp the other side of the globe with you.

Chris


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:31 pm 
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Very neat...I really like the big rat/racer! These guys are pretty cool. I remember years ago looking at exporters lists and loving the common names given like 100 flower snake, 100 pacer, mountain flower ratsnake etc...:-)

Thanks for sharing with us and good luck on the Cobra hunt...looking forwards to your success!
Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:42 pm 
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Thanks, guys!

"e-herp" - now there's Merriam-Webster's Neologism of the Year 2009 right there! :-)

All those flowery names are total baloney, of course. There's almost no standard common name in English for any of the more obscure Asian snakes - I'd bet the exporters make them up on the fly. This morning I saw a "Plum Blossom Snake", aka "Formosa Wolf Snake". Cool names, but obviously transliterated from Chinese and probably completely unknown outside of Chinese-speaking realms. Fortunately, that's what scientific names are for, so henceforth I'll refer to it as Lycodon ruhstrati ruhstrati. Screw all those damn flowers :-)

As to the cobra hunt, there's good news and bad news. Good news first: this morning a work crew cleaning the ditches along "Cobra Road" told me that they saw a six-footer cross the road last Wednesday just before noon. The bad news? I MISSED IT!!! Why are awe-inspiring sights like this ALWAYS wasted on civilians who don't even KNOW how to APPRECIATE what they're seeing?

TT, crankily....


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:14 am 
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Nice post! The drainage pipe finds were very cool! Thanks for sharing.
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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:41 am 

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chrish wrote:
Twoton,

Just a reply to say that even though I don't comment on all your posts, I read them and enjoy each and every one.

It's great to get to e-herp the other side of the globe with you.

Chris


Ditto for me. I never really reply to your threads but enjoy every one of them. What gets my blood running the most is that thought of that wall you are always finding stuff on. It would be like having a TX road cut right in my neighborhood that I could walk to. All the best and thanks always for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:08 am 
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I love your posts - you've got a pretty good crew there!

-Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:48 pm 
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I love the posts too. The little guy with the green snake is a hoot. The cat-eye snake is really cool too. Looking forward to seeing some of the ratsnakes and other things too.

Regards....TC :bigthumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Thanks very much again, everyone - I really appreciate your appreciation! I'll tell the little guy you liked his pic, I'm sure he'll be stoked. That's my son Hans (IV), and he just earned his Full Herper Stripes last night by getting bitten and crapped on by a Dinodon rufozonatum, the most common and also the most pitbulliest nocturnal snake 'round these parts. :-) Come Monday, his classmates won't hear the end of it, I'm sure...


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:47 am 
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Thanks for taking the time to keep us updated on Taiwan. The Amphiesma stolata looks a lot like our garter snakes and also feeds on frogs, toads, earthworms etc. It is interesting that although you are far away and I am not familiar with the snakes of Taiwan, I feel like I know some of the snakes. However, that may all be an illusion too.

I love that green snake. I too herp with my kids and love getting out and walking; it's a nice family activity. Peter B.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:45 am 
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Hans,

I always enjoy your posts, and this one was great. Thanks for the invert shots, I appreciate those.


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:36 am 
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Great post... It is always nice to see stuff from outside the US.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:11 am 
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I'm in the same group, don't comment but love the post, I just think I'm to flabbergasted to say anything.

I really like that Zaocys dhumnades, I have seen them labeled as Ptyas as well any clarification on that?

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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:05 pm 
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Thanks yet again, everyone - it's great to be able to bring some exotic weirdness into a few overseas households :-)

Zaocys and Ptyas are different genera. They're both large ratsnakes (7-8 foot), but while Zaocys is sleek and slender, Ptyas have a more brutish, chunky look. There are two Ptyas species on Taiwan: P. mucosa, a supposed King Cobra mimic in the initial stages of evolution, and P. korros. I'll post a few P. mucosa pix soon - last month we found a pretty big one that had gotten itself locked up in an abandoned chicken run.....


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of Sundry Taiwan Snakes & Frogs & Stuff & Such
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:30 pm 
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Hans,

Nice post. I loved all of the "sundries". The little Cyclophiops major is a beautiful snake.

It never ceases to amaze me how wet it is where you live and of course, how well adapted the reptiles are to these conditions. The snakes in many of your pics have water droplets on their scales.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:16 am 
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moloch wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how wet it is where you live and of course, how well adapted the reptiles are to these conditions.

Haha - spoken like a true desert dweller. :-) Whenever the relative humidity drops below 50% here, there's nary a reptile on the move, especially if them temps are low (below 24 C). Herps only appear when it's muggy (right before the rain) or right after the rains. The Green Snake was fished out of a creek, though :D


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:01 pm 
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Twoton wrote:
Zaocys and Ptyas are different genera.

REVISION: it seems Zaocys dhumnades was moved into the genus Ptyas in 1996 by David & Vogel. Of course, it took 13 years for the name to be officially accepted by Taiwanese herpetologists, as I just found out. I'll use it on my new website, too.

Damn the taxonomist wars!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:29 am 
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Always enjoy your posts Twoton. That whip scorpion looks exactly like the endemic species that lives here in Central Florida.


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TurtleKing24 wrote:
That whip scorpion looks exactly like the endemic species that lives here in Central Florida.

Do yours spray "vinegar", too?


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That whip scorpion looks exactly like the endemic species that lives here in Central Florida.


That must be better than Stilosoma for this board!

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