The 2014 NAFHA National Meeting will be held in Rodeo New Mexico from Aug 29th to Sept 1, 2014. One of the most celebrated locales in North American herpetology, the Chiricahua Mountains and surrounding deserts have an amazing abundance and diversity of reptile and amphibian life. The Chiricahua Desert Museum has graciously agreed to host NAFHA at its meeting facilities in Rodeo, offered free admission to the splendid museum exhibits, and will facilitate a BBQ and social for us. Camping will be available near Portal, Arizona just a few miles down the road, lodging will be available in Rodeo and Portal.
http://www.chiricahuadesertmuseum.com
NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
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- Lizardman1988
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Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
There are so many untapped areas in the Rocky Mountain Chapter. I'm sure it will be a great trip, but I'm disappointed that we can't focus our efforts on somewhere where the data gathered would be more beneficial.
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Ryan, we have several chapter trips to areas where there is a paucity of data, but all are extremely remote and not suitable for hosting a national event. You are welcome to join us on any event.
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Sounds great!!
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There are several I've wanted to attend, but it is hard for me to make them from out here in Kansas. I will be trying to make the COPARC meeting, however.
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
This looks like an AZ trip disguised as a NM trip?
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
What's the difference? A few grains of sand...spinifer wrote:This looks like an AZ trip disguised as a NM trip?
I'm going to try to make this one for sure. Looks like I'm moving to Texas in 2014 so I'll be closer anyway.
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Very, very cool. There in little chance that I'll be in the States at that time next year, but if I am I will do everything possible to make it.
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Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Jonathan, it'd be nice to meet you if you could make it. I've herped with a few of the Rocky Mtn crew and I know Tim is great to herp with. I can understand why they would want to herp in or near Rodeo. The diversity is high and there will be many lifers for their chapter members. I would like to see some interesting parts of the Rocky Mountain states, but this event should be very well attended and have lots of new folks to meet. August 29th is kind of late in the monsoon season, but the reptile babies should be out. It probably won't be really good for amphibians though, if the rains have died off. The lizard diversity is fantastic.
**Note** Make sure you have some gas in the car when you arrive. Last summer Rodeo didn't have any working gas stations. You could call the Chiricahua Desert Museum in advance to check on things.
Cheers...TC
**Note** Make sure you have some gas in the car when you arrive. Last summer Rodeo didn't have any working gas stations. You could call the Chiricahua Desert Museum in advance to check on things.
Cheers...TC
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
I will legitimately try to make it to this.
- Chris Smith
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Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Have "we" procured a research / scientific collecting permit for the event and its attendees? It would be nice to save the out-of-staters some $$ for licenses, plus it helps legitimize NAFHA IMO. We did this for the snake road meeting, and every person / group had a copy of the permit on them while herping.
I can help with this if needed.
-Chris
I can help with this if needed.
-Chris
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Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS!
I just received our Scientific Collecting Permit for the event. It is pretty extensive. I will post the text of it in another post.
I just received our Scientific Collecting Permit for the event. It is pretty extensive. I will post the text of it in another post.
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Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Well I am unable to cut and paste so I will give a synopsis of the permit, and its requirements.
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You must be with one of the named agents (collectors) on the permit to be exempt from needing a Hunting Fishing license. There are a total of 13 named agents plus myself.
The SCP is only valid from Aug 28 - Sept 2 in Cochise County south of Interstate 10 from (and including) the Sulphur Springs Valley east to the New Mexico state line.
The SCP authorizes us to capture, hold for up to 2 hours, photograph and release at site of capture unlimited numbers of all open season (non-protected) herps. The SCP also allows for 1 hour hold for up to 4 lepidus, 1 pricei, 1 Milk snake, 2 Gila Monsters, and 10 Ornate Box Turtles.
No lepidus or pricei may be pursued or captured from the talus of that well known place.
We cannot capture massasaugas, unless in imminent peril from road death. But then all we can do is move them off the road ONLY. We can only photograph them in situ.
No capturing Yarrows Spiny Lizards or Striped Plateau Lizards along Cave Creek above the Southwest Research Station or along Turkey Creek - due to an on going ecological study.
We are authorized to collect DOR open season and closed season herps found dead (federally protected species requires a Federal permit). DOR's will be deposited into the collection at U of A.
We cant all be in one area simultaneously. We must "disperse our collection activities for all species to avoid negatively impacting wild populations."
The maximum number of animals that may be collected under the permit will apply to the aggregate of all collectors (permittee and agents).
Destructive collecting techniques are not authorized.
Thats it in a nutshell.
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You must be with one of the named agents (collectors) on the permit to be exempt from needing a Hunting Fishing license. There are a total of 13 named agents plus myself.
The SCP is only valid from Aug 28 - Sept 2 in Cochise County south of Interstate 10 from (and including) the Sulphur Springs Valley east to the New Mexico state line.
The SCP authorizes us to capture, hold for up to 2 hours, photograph and release at site of capture unlimited numbers of all open season (non-protected) herps. The SCP also allows for 1 hour hold for up to 4 lepidus, 1 pricei, 1 Milk snake, 2 Gila Monsters, and 10 Ornate Box Turtles.
No lepidus or pricei may be pursued or captured from the talus of that well known place.
We cannot capture massasaugas, unless in imminent peril from road death. But then all we can do is move them off the road ONLY. We can only photograph them in situ.
No capturing Yarrows Spiny Lizards or Striped Plateau Lizards along Cave Creek above the Southwest Research Station or along Turkey Creek - due to an on going ecological study.
We are authorized to collect DOR open season and closed season herps found dead (federally protected species requires a Federal permit). DOR's will be deposited into the collection at U of A.
We cant all be in one area simultaneously. We must "disperse our collection activities for all species to avoid negatively impacting wild populations."
The maximum number of animals that may be collected under the permit will apply to the aggregate of all collectors (permittee and agents).
Destructive collecting techniques are not authorized.
Thats it in a nutshell.
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Strong work Dave. This permit will certainly add to the educational component of the trip. The NM permit is in process right now.
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Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Awesome! Congrats on getting the permit.
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NAFHA National Meeting Itinerary
August 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Friday Aug 29 5PM
Meet at Sunny Flats Campground for pre road cruising social
http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/coronado ... 8&actid=70
Friday evening - Road cruising
Saturday Aug 30 10AM
Meet at Chiricahua Desert Museum Conference Center, 1 mile north of the Museum.
Meeting announcements
Afternoon and evening herping
Sunday Aug 31 2PM
Meet at Chiricahua Desert Museum Conference Center, 1 mile north of the Museum.
Guest speaker and announcments
Afternoon and evening herping
Monday, September 1 2PM
Meet at Chiricahua Desert Museum for tour and BBQ social. Free admission to the museum!
http://www.chiricahuadesertmuseum.com/
Evening herping
August 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Friday Aug 29 5PM
Meet at Sunny Flats Campground for pre road cruising social
http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/coronado ... 8&actid=70
Friday evening - Road cruising
Saturday Aug 30 10AM
Meet at Chiricahua Desert Museum Conference Center, 1 mile north of the Museum.
Meeting announcements
Afternoon and evening herping
Sunday Aug 31 2PM
Meet at Chiricahua Desert Museum Conference Center, 1 mile north of the Museum.
Guest speaker and announcments
Afternoon and evening herping
Monday, September 1 2PM
Meet at Chiricahua Desert Museum for tour and BBQ social. Free admission to the museum!
http://www.chiricahuadesertmuseum.com/
Evening herping
Re: NAFHA 2014 National Meeting Aug 29-Sept 1 2014 Rodeo NM
Everyone attending this event must sign a NAFHA liability waiver. Anyone who does not sign the waiver can NOT participate in the NAFHA event, this includes parents signing for minors.
If anyone is taking a minor that you are not the legal guardian of, please contact me for special instructions.
Thank You
Brian Hinds
International Coordinator
If anyone is taking a minor that you are not the legal guardian of, please contact me for special instructions.
Thank You
Brian Hinds
International Coordinator