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PostPosted: January 9th, 2019, 8:00 am 

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Aww man, I was fully on-board until the tongs made their appearance at a den/rookery. Bit o' bummer. Not hating, just a little bummin'.

Otherwise, thanks for sharing. Fun looking habitat, shows some of the upside of fire. I also like those weird ensatinas you got there.

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PostPosted: January 9th, 2019, 12:18 pm 
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Jimi wrote:
Aww man, I was fully on-board until the tongs made their appearance at a den/rookery. Bit o' bummer. Not hating, just a little bummin'.

Otherwise, thanks for sharing. Fun looking habitat, shows some of the upside of fire. I also like those weird ensatinas you got there.

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Lol no worries man. I know exactly what you mean. I do want to say, that what you’re seeing is totally staged. it didn’t happen like that. Also, I was the one who wanted to pull out a baby to get some good photos of. Just because I haven’t seen or had an opportunity to photograph a high contrast Juvie in a while. Not RenoBart.

I asked RenoBartTo act like he was grabbing for one with the tongs. As I took photos. He never did grab the little snake because the one we were going for a climbed back into the rocks wedge. Can’t tell if you can see in the photo or not, but as he’s clamp down there’s no snake in it. So then after I took those photos I wanted. There was actually someones hook left their behind. Someone was there before us and left their hook up there. So I took that snake hook And asked RenoBart to get out of the way from where he was standing on some soft slopey powder dirt.Then I hooked the second little juvenile that the other one was laying on With a perfect angle gentle mid body scoop, and gently tossed it over onto the soft powder dirt. It may sound barbaric, but I’ve held rattlesnakes of that size several times since I was a kid. Along with all other snakes of course. I would not have done it if I thought there was any chance of it hurting the snake and trust me he was landing on a soft cloud pillow not on any kind of hard granite rock or anything that would hurt him. I’m sure he didn’t like it very much and surprised the shit out of em tho :lol: because I’m pretty sure he was asleep. No tongue Flickr from what I remember. But yes, I’d much rather have left it insitu. I agree with you 100% Jimi. Another reason why I’m looking forward to getting a good video camera. Zoom on that snake is much more how I’d like to be handling things. Instead of having to pull it out for a macro where u have to stick the camera 5 inches from the snake. Hat trick it. Pose it. And all that nonsense. So good things to come :)


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Also, I want to say. If the soft Sierra powder dirt wasn’t there… I would have never even thought of doing that. :) Again, I know how it sounds. But I’ve been doing this forever and I know for a fact that not a single little bone in that delicate little baby was injured. And only did it because I was 100% sure of that. I’ve got a better sense of things like that than average person on things of that nature. I was born with it. Sensitive touch. Natural Geometric Understanding. And a bit more in depth thought process. Again I was just born that way. Grandson of a World War II fighter pilot. It’s in my DNA I guess. Has something to do with how the brain has to maneuver the plane in the air to dodge bullets and how important angles are in relation to natural forces like wind and what not. Again just born in my DNA. I don’t believe that the average human could’ve done that because I know they can’t… There was a certain talent involved. Whether anyone believes it or not. I have a more Percise sensibility of pressure points and all that. It’s like how some people can shoot pool and other people can’t.I’ve seen people grab snacks in front of me in the field that pose more danger to that snake from it being grabbed by that person then what I did with this little snack.... :? I know that for a fact. And I’m sorry


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A lot goes unnoticed by the average person…


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I’m only posting this to a sure anyone and everyone that that little rattle snake was not harmed. For no other reason am I posting this.


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I’ve been doing this forever and I know for a fact that not a single little bone in that delicate little baby was injured. And only did it because I was 100% sure of that. I’ve got a better sense of things like that than average person on things of that nature. I was born with it. Sensitive touch. Natural Geometric Understanding. And a bit more in depth thought process. Again I was just born that way. Grandson of a World War II fighter pilot. It’s in my DNA I guess. Has something to do with how the brain has to maneuver the plane in the air to dodge bullets and how important angles are in relation to natural forces like wind and what not. Again just born in my DNA. I don’t believe that the average human could’ve done that because I know they can’t… There was a certain talent involved. Whether anyone believes it or not. I have a more Percise sensibility of pressure points and all that. It’s like how some people can shoot pool and other people can’t.I’ve seen people grab snacks in front of me in the field that pose more danger to that snake from it being grabbed by that person then what I did with this little snack.... :? I know that for a fact. And I’m sorry

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I’ve been doing this forever and I know for a fact that not a single little bone in that delicate little baby was injured. And only did it because I was 100% sure of that. I’ve got a better sense of things like that than average person on things of that nature. I was born with it. Sensitive touch. Natural Geometric Understanding. And a bit more in depth thought process. Again I was just born that way. Grandson of a World War II fighter pilot. It’s in my DNA I guess. Has something to do with how the brain has to maneuver the plane in the air to dodge bullets and how important angles are in relation to natural forces like wind and what not. Again just born in my DNA. I don’t believe that the average human could’ve done that because I know they can’t… There was a certain talent involved. Whether anyone believes it or not. I have a more Percise sensibility of pressure points and all that. It’s like how some people can shoot pool and other people can’t.I’ve seen people grab snacks in front of me in the field that pose more danger to that snake from it being grabbed by that person then what I did with this little snack.... :? I know that for a fact. And I’m sorry

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Land that coin trick yet...?


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...and no “me me me mama me” :lol: :) The only reason I wrote all that explanation is because I didn’t want kids going around flinging rattlesnakes across the forest. Since I’ve been given the crown of childhood role model within the forum Realm.And yeah given to me I didn’t ask for it. And notice, I didn’t mention it in the post. I had to say it because I’m an honest person and suddenly people had a problem with grabbing rattlesnakes with tongues. So I had to get RenoBart off the “snake” hook for that one.. whole reason I took those photos so people wouldn’t think I was grab him with my hands :lol: :lol: This is what I get for setting a good example :roll:

And I don’t know what reason you’re talking about. The only reason I had for pullin the snake out is I want to photograph it. Duh. And what’s stupid about hooking a rattlesnake. What her purse don’t hook rattlesnakes now...? Obviously you’re just looking for an excuse to smear your jelly and attempted to toast my ass

You know I’m gonna say something that should’ve been said 10 years ago. When I first got involved with this community back in 2009 2010 whatever. I noticed something that was very disturbing to me and I remember how much it bothered me… These herpers who would launch these attacks on me about how I’m not doing it the way they think it should be done because they got All this respect for the animals and stuff right. The protectors of the reptiles. The elite lol When one of them find a snake or a salamander that’s hard to find a really cool or what they consider to be cool in their little groups. They always say the same thing, “omg, I’m so jelly” Someone finds a cool looking reptile. And then their friends get jealous. And the friend that finds it gets all ego sunshine built up ego over the fact friends are jealous of it. I remember thinking, that is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever witnessed in my life. All these people that say they love these snakes and I am such a bad guy for picking up a rattlesnake and all this stuff. The first thought that goes through their mind and they’re hearts when one of their “friends” finds a snake that they haven’t found before,... they get jealous. The first emotion they feel in their heart and the first thought they think in their mind is routed through hatred. And these are liberal kids that are supposed to be fighting against Donald Trump, the bad people, the friggin empire, for chrissake....lol That’s how I realized...they’re just jealous of me. They have no other motivation. Sad. But whatever. I know from day one anytime I saw someone out do me, they gain my respect and they get my compliments. It’s always been that way with me from day one. Just because I’m such a evil person you know.

So what I have to say to you Mr. Bill, is...If you can’t do that coin trick, you don’t have the credentials to speak on my level. Lmao So keep your thoughts to yourself and don’t say anything to anyone in less you have something nice to say :lol:


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When I read this stuff, it was late and I asked my partner to get me a quarter out of the tupperware thing we have for loose change, on the kitchen table. I couldnt get up because I had a little tiger lady stretched out over my lap.

After a couple tries, I got it. It was awkward as I dont remember the last time I even called heads or tails on something. I tried again, couldnt get it. I got my phone out as a great urge to post me doing it curled hotly and unwholesomely. The 12 year old tomboy in me, is Alive and Well, but that wasnt the operative. I did it again after many tries, but couldnt get it when i tried to video it.

Most of my own accomplishments that have been meaningful to me, and that I will always remember, have been animal associated. Actually - all of them. At least the ones that gave my sternum a deep inner glow. But none of them I have documented with a camera.

What irked me about your post, is it is like a trap, in response and to prevent critical review.

The notion that If there is No Photo, it didnt Happen, can become malignant. Something is lost when the ego gets in front of the spirit of our stories.

If a surgeon didnt learn the coin trick, should he turn in his license? Of course not. Coins and momentum dont relate to living tissue.

This was wrong, and I know it doesnt satisfy or bring you peace about your post to have made such a move.


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When I read this stuff, it was late and I asked my partner to get me a quarter out of the tupperware thing we have for loose change, on the kitchen table. I couldnt get up because I had a little tiger lady stretched out over my lap.

After a couple tries, I got it. It was awkward as I dont remember the last time I even called heads or tails on something. I tried again, couldnt get it. I got my phone out as a great urge to post me doing it curled hotly and unwholesomely. The 12 year old tomboy in me, is Alive and Well, but that wasnt the operative. I did it again after many tries, but couldnt get it when i tried to video it.

Most of my own accomplishments that have been meaningful to me, and that I will always remember, have been animal associated. Actually - all of them. At least the ones that gave my sternum a deep inner glow. But none of them I have documented with a camera.

What irked me about your post, is it is like a trap, in response and to prevent critical review.

The notion that If there is No Photo, it didnt Happen, can become malignant. Something is lost when the ego gets in front of the spirit of our stories.

If a surgeon didnt learn the coin trick, should he turn in his license? Of course not. Coins and momentum dont relate to living tissue.

This was wrong, and I know it doesnt satisfy or bring you peace about your post to have made such a move.



:lol: :lol: :lol: Well then, you are officially a certified baby rattlesnake chucker. So go out and get yourself some tongs, find some soft dirt, and start chucking rattlesnakes across the forest :thumb: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And like you said, no photo no proof. :lol: But if you REALLY did it you’re seriously in the 1% considering that’s my own personal made coin trick. I never saw anyone do it before me and I’ve never seen anyone able to do it....I came up with it while sitting bored at work when I worked at the casino and messing around with the poker chip . Which by the way is much easier than a slippery coin....And I HAVE shown a few people over the years. So if you actually did get it within a few tries, should be a piece a cake to get that cell phone out and get some video of it today and post for all of us to see, because you are officially in the elite group of rattlesnake forest chuckers.... and you should be proud. :lol: I’m a make patches And we’re going to start a gang.


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Youve got to be kidding that you're the only person youve ever seen do that.

It wasnt that hard, and I had a cat milling around me while I did it.

But most telling, Porter is you are ignoring the actual content of the post.


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I cant believe I'm actually considering trying to do it again. And that Im pissed off.

This feeling, that I am having right now is of the same taxon that causes people to get turned off to peoples input.

It has the sharp aroma of defensiveness, and comes from a broken place.

Bill was right in what he said and it goes across board, myself included. The people who are most respected around here, seem to have less "I"s and "Me"s in their presentations.

It isnt jealousy Porter, its that.


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Kelly Mc wrote:
Youve got to be kidding that you're the only person youve ever seen do that.

It wasnt that hard, and I had a cat milling around me while I did it.

But most telling, Porter is you are ignoring the actual content of the post.


Well like I said, I’ve never seen anyone do it because I invented it. It’s just a stupid little exercise for my mind that I do when I got bored. I don’t really want it around or brag about it. But there’s been a couple times I did challenge someone to see if they could do it just out of pure random Ness. I probably started doing it while we were at the gas station or something in they tried it and couldn’t do it. But I think it displays hey certain ability to handle things with delicate care. And that’s why I posted the video


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I cant believe I'm actually considering trying to do it again. And that Im pissed off.

This feeling, that I am having right now is of the same taxon that causes people to get turned off to peoples input.

It has the sharp aroma of defensiveness, and comes from a broken place.

Bill was right in what he said and it goes across board, myself included. The people who are most respected around here, seem to have less "I"s and "Me"s in their presentations.

It isnt jealousy Porter, its that.


You’ve got the rest of your life to learn how to do it. You don’t have to post a video tonight. Just keep working on it till you get it :beer:


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Porter wrote:
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Youve got to be kidding that you're the only person youve ever seen do that.

It wasnt that hard, and I had a cat milling around me while I did it.

But most telling, Porter is you are ignoring the actual content of the post.


Well like I said, I’ve never seen anyone do it because I invented it. It’s just a stupid little exercise for my mind that I do when I got bored. I don’t really want it around or brag about it. But there’s been a couple times I did challenge someone to see if they could do it just out of pure random Ness. I probably started doing it while we were at the gas station or something in they tried it and couldn’t do it. But I think it displays hey certain ability to handle things with delicate care. And that’s why I posted the video


Im sorry if you think of that as a unique invention, Porter. People have been flipping quarters for as long as theyve been minted. Some people even make them disappear.

I was probably lucky, and have above average timing myself TBH. But all that it proves is that youve flipped alot of quarters. There was nothing it it that "proves" your DNA to dodge bullets and predict a snake will wont writhe in hyperbole against metal at being disturbed in its hiding place. Especially, in my humble level crote knowledge, a rook.

But Ive cared for pit vipers jsyk. Very Upset ones that had been stressed on purpose, one with cigarette shorts, and tossed around per car trunk in jars from Missouri to ca.


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You never did it Kelly. You just messing with my head. And I’m tired of it so I’m not gonna respond anymore. Also with the name bombs and you know what I’m talking about. You’re trying to come up with any little thing to aggravate me. As I’m sitting here trying to make jokes and take it lightly with humor.

Don’t apologize because I don’t care

Make a video of you doing the coin trick or don’t but I don’t expect me to believe you. Also, up there could be some possibility that someone in the world flip the coin and caught on the back of their finger but I sure as hell didn’t see it before I did it and it was an original idea… Let me repeat that, it was an original idea . And if you can find any evidence that someone did that trick before me posting this video yesterday, then maybe I’ll give you hundred dollars. But you’re not gonna find that information. Just like you’re not gonna find any factual information that I heard that snake. It’s all what you want to believe everything a one of you people. 5 foot nine situation again I do it exactly the same way because I know I handled it correctly with no harm to the animal. I know enough about snakes to know That.

I’m going to finish my third segment of my end of year post soon and then I’m not gonna be posting on this form and less it’s a video to share with people. I’m going to go away and I’m going to continue to think positive even though I’ve got all this negative criticism kicking down my door trying to get me involved in these little battles so that people can go around saying that I’m such a creep. I’m aware of the babe. I’m aware of the tricks. You can’t catch that quarter on your finger though because you’re not capable of not hurting that little rattlesnake. And I respect you that you would not do that because You know it exceeds your limits. And me thinking it’s my grandfather’s DNA is just me trying to figure out where I get it from but the truth of the matter is I don’t know… I’m an artist. I have a sensitive touch. Women have told me I’m a master at the art of cunnilingus. I don’t know why I’m just awesome like that :lol:

One more post people… And then you can Frankenstein me for the rest of your lives but it will be pointless because I will already have left and all you will get are the remnant film agra fee debris that happens to flow through this for him around that I love so much. And honestly I do you love it that’s not even sarcasm. This form is awesome. Why else would a poster. Probably because I know there’s people out there that are truly my friend and they see what The truth is. But really I just love the whole form in general. The simple things like it has a black background to post your photos on. What a great artistic pallet to work from.

Funniest thing to me is… Here I am the bad guy when I’m Marley one of the greatest guys I’ve ever lived in. And I got these people constantly trying to prove to me that is not true. It blows my mind. Once again, jealousy… That’s the only exclamation I can gather after years of trying to figure it out. Sucks but whatever I don’t care. Only reason you people think I’m slime is because you take my words and process it in your own mind and apply it to your own mental ways of thinking. Anyways there’s gonna be some very beautiful videos to come period piece


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You arent listening to feedback, Porter. Not anyone's.

Good luck with your videos, and when you post them, that you get what it is you so clearly desire.

But you're not listening.


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$200 if you can find evidence of that coin check was ever performed before me. I give you my word. But the evidence can’t be fraudulent. And I want To add that that little rattlesnake dropping off a hook on the middle of the road someone trying to hook it before a car runs it over would’ve taken more of a muscle bruise then ever could’ve occurred buy me tossing it over into the soft powdery dirt. And if there’s no knowledge for anybody to comprehend that logically well then… Whatever

Do you want to know what I wanna accomplish with these videos. I’m going to be planting a seed of inspiration. Like I’ve done ever since 2009. And when I see it on Facebook three years after the fact,And being credited to someone else, Then I know that it was successful. Just like I have seen in the past ;) :beer: And positive change Was successful


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you know what… it just Dondonde me. I spent so much time thinking, how can I make things right with these people… How can I change their opinion about me. How can I help these people. The answer is clear. I need to just go away. That’s what they wanted from day one. I was always that hot come flying in posing a threat on the black bird nest. It was always like that. So what’s the one thing I can Do you to make things right. Be a good man.… Not buy that video camera. Don’t post any video. Don’t increase any more hatred. So there it is. And one last time, I’m sorry


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creative people are important. You should get the video camera and realize that you are blessed with the ability to use it well, and that you get to go places and enjoy your muses.

Maybe you should think about not trying to control what people think. You will never really know, anyway.

Every one here is interested in herps and pretty much all animals so your subject material is a mountain of gold just waiting.

We are happiest when we vanish into what we love.


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Porter does it more gracefully, quick and native as a fish gulp.


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