Milk Snakes from the last few years...Dial up warning.

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ChadKS
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Milk Snakes from the last few years...Dial up warning.

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Hello Folks. Here are some milks from the midwest.

floodplain milks from SE AR, syspila x amaura.
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SE AR
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SE Illinois
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NE KS
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W KS
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NW MO
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NW MO
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SW Illinois
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SE MO
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W KS
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SE Illinois
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SW Illinois
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SW Illinois
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SW Illinois
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S Illinois
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S Illinois
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NW Kentucky
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NW Kentucky
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C Kentucky
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N AZ
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SE MO
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S Illinois
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S Illinois
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C MO
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S Illinois
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S Illinois hypo
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SE MO
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S Illinois
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NW MO
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C MO
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W KS
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W KS
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NW MO
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Wyoming
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Wyoming
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E KS
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S Illinois
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E KS
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S Illinois
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S Illinois
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C MO
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NW MO
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Iowa
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SE OK
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SE AR
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E KS
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Bro….very nice. Way to light up the ol’ FHF!

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Stunners All.

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Having only found one in the wild so far...I need to bump up my numbers clearly.
Stuck staring at that one piebald(? not really the right term but not sure what fits) one from western Kansas; that has got to be the coolest milk I've ever seen a photo of, and I'm dying now to try and figure out what the genetics or environmental effects are behind making that.

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hcarlton wrote:
September 12th, 2021, 10:01 pm
Stuck staring at that one piebald(? not really the right term but not sure what fits) one from western Kansas; that has got to be the coolest milk I've ever seen a photo of, and I'm dying now to try and figure out what the genetics or environmental effects are behind making that.
Hybrid 🦏

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Kelly Mc
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Its an allele blip.

Pattern/color anomaly can happen in any pigmented animal. But seems to be most common in animals prone to "locality" or individual variability.

Because human beings are so visually oriented and even extend values on visual differences we tend to put inordinate focus on them inmo.

Someone fluent in the card deck of milk mutations could explain the probable recessive outcomes responsible.

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OK so here’s my reasoning… It’s based mostly off of the other individuals found in W Kansas. I’m assuming they’re from the same locale, or close to it. They are the only milk snakes that have a lateral fade on the side of their bodies. Which is a trait of the longnose. Even the piebald individual has this fading. In the other photos, those individuals also have this bizarre unique patterning. Which is usually influenced by hybridIzation (like in trout/fish) they have similar markings as rhino and their snouts look more slender to My eye. I think it is the influence of 🦏 🧬

I have spoken… ✋🏻 Like Nick Nolte. The ugnaught 💁🏻‍♂️

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