I am still confused with what you are saying here.... because YES!, they can most certainly be "dbl. het, they would be double het hypo and anery just as you typed it out in your very first sentence in your reply about misunderstanding Jeff, not dbl. het hypo, dble het anery, that is a redundant statement oxymoron that doesn't make any sense. Each snake cannot be double het for the same trait twice. The snake(s) would simply be double het for hypo and anery.hellihooks wrote:Thanks Doug,DMong wrote:
Not sure I understand when you say .... "Dlb-het hypo/Dlb-het anery Hondo"
If the Hondo is double het, it is a heterozygous recessive carriers for two seperate mutations, they can't be double het anery, or double het hypo. But they certainly can be double het hypo AND anery (i.e. ghost).
Doug
I'm sure I misunderstood Jeff when he said they were dlb het for hypo AND anery. I'm not a big breeder, but wanted to try to hatch out a ghost myself. I'm hoping crossing this with my dlb het will do the trick. Any normal-looking would then be what... het for ghost/het for dlb het= triple het?
Some guys I know wont buy hets (even 100%) but I know the breeder well (J.Teel Captive bred tri-colors) and he's as honest as the day is long, and I saw the parents...his hypos, aneries, and his ghosts he produced. Just amazing. Once you get to see/hold a 5 ft ghost... you're hooked!
Thx again for the help, I'll check the snakes head out carefully, to see if there's any black. jim
BTW... is anyone selling knoblocki ... breeder sized male, preferably?
I am going to assume that you mean double het hypo and anery (i.e. ghost), and yes, that is quite a common combination now days to see with them. I still am not sure exactly what you intend to breed from how you said it because you only said ...."I'm hoping crossing this with my dlb het will do the trick.. ........ crossing what x what?? I can't say unless you are very specific with BOTH parents exact genetics.
If you breed two normal "looking" snakes that you got from Jeff that are indeed BOTH double het for hypo and anery (ghost) together, you will get a theoretical predicted outcome of the following..........
Male is, Het for Ghost (hypo x anery)
Female is, Het for Ghost (hypo x anery)
Offspring are predicted to be:
25.00%, Het for Ghost
12.50%, Anerythristic, Het for Hypomelanistic
12.50%, Hypomelanistic, Het for Anerythristic
12.50%, Het for Anerythristic
12.50%, Het for Hypomelanistic
6.25%, Ghost (hypo x anery)
6.25%, Anerythristic
6.25%, Hypomelanistic
6.25%, Normal
Since you won't know which hatchling morph (except for obviously any ghost produced) or normal looking offspring are truly 100% het for either trait(s), they would be called "possible hets" for whatever trait that was not visually displayed (homozygous). For example any hypo produced would be possible het for anery, and ALL your normals would be possible DOUBLE hets (hypo and anery). They could acually be het for hypo, or anery, or both (anery and hypo), you simply won't know until they are later test-bred with an animal that is KNOWN to have the smae like trait in it's genetics.
Anyway, this is not rocket science, and is REALLY easy to understand once you grasp the very basics, but it seems very confusing to people at first if they aren't familiar with the concepts of the basics.
Here is a link to my good friend's site (Terry Dunham) that has some very helpful and easy step by step explanations of how gentics is inherited.
http://www.albinotricolors.com/genetics.html
........ good luck with things!
~Doug