WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Early

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Carl Koch
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WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Early

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April and May were fun (http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/vie ... =2&t=12414) and school (I’m a band instructor) wasn’t even over yet! Better yet, I had an extended herping trip planned to start right after the last day of school ended. On Friday, June 8th, I headed out to western Wisconsin to meet up with a couple guys from CA, Darin and Devin. I had met Darin when he was in Wisconsin a couple seasons back, and this time around his good friend Devin had a business training thing going on in western Wisconsin and Darin decided to fly out as well and make a herping trip of it.

Unfortunately, the temps forecast for the next couple of days were unseasonably high, but we pushed ahead anyway. The first day was a bust in more ways than one...no snakes, a lot of energy used, and some bad reactions to pollen for both Darin and Devin. To add insult to injury, they went fishing that evening and caught nothing!

The next day was better...the guys saw 8 timbers at the first locale we checked, and timbers were one of their top two “must-sees” for the trip. I didn’t get any pics of these, as I was still recuperating from the first day, and opted to stay on the trail rather than hike down the bluff face.

On top off the bluff I found this beautiful wood lily (Lilium philadelphicum L.) in bloom.

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P6100061 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

That evening we headed to another locale in search of another species high on Darin and Devin’s list, the black rat snake (Pantherophis obsoletus). We hiked quite a bit before coming upon this young snake just outside a snack shack!

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L-R: me, Darin, Devin.

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The next morning we headed to a central Wisconsin location to look for for blue racers (Coluber constrictor -- now referred to in Wisconsin as “North American racer” or “yellow-bellied racer”) and eastern hognose snakes (Heterodon platirhinos). The hognose was the other “must-see” snake for the guys on this trip. In short order, Darin and Devin found a homely racer, but confident they’d find a prettier one, I didn’t photograph it. Shortly after, we found this beautiful, freshly-shed gravid female timber.

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Blooming eastern prickly pear cactus (Opuntia humifusa).

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P6110153 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

Wolf spider, I think.

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P6110105 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

Prairie fame-flower (Phemeranthus [=Talinium] rugospermus) -- Thanks to Corey Raimond for the I.D.!

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P6110243 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

The guys DID end up with a prettier racer.

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P6110160 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

Since Darin and Devin REALLY wanted to find a hog, we decided to wait around ‘til the temp dropped a bit and then try again. In the meantime we headed to a nearby wetland where I photographed a blooming waterlily...

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...a lovely blue dragonfly...

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...and this large common map turtle (Graptemys geographica).

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After returning to the prairie when the temp had dropped some, Devin flushed a bird from a nest at the base of this little oak.

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I waited around for awhile to try and I.D. the bird but eventually gave up.

We combed the prairie for HOURS but to no avail. Upon returning to the car, Darin went and flipped some cover we had flipped a few times already throughout the day and discovered this beautiful young bull snake (Pituophis catenifer sayi).

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The next morning, Devin had to fly out around 11, so after dropping him at the airport, Darin and I hit one last spot nearby. Not too long after arriving, Darin found something in the grass and looked over at me and said “hognose”. Being that both Darin and Devin are jokesters, and since I had never seen a hog at this spot, I didn’t believe him at first, but sure enough, there was the other “must-see” species!

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Unfortunately, Devin will have to come another time to see one.

We also found a gravid fox snake and some western slender glass lizards (Ophisaurus attenuatus attenuatus) at this spot.

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The eastern hognose snake nesting occurred quite early this year. The day before I left for western Wisconsin (6/7), I found no evidence of nesting activity, but on June 10th, Jason Hood told me he and a group he was with found 3 nesting females. On June 12th I found several burrows but no snakes, and the next day found two hogs at Hog Prairie, and one in a brush pile at nesting area 3.

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On 6/14, Trey Kieckhefer and I found this clear track in the sand and one lovely female.

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Trey shoots the hog...I like the headgear!

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On 6/16, Jeff Moorbeck and I found this burrower at nesting area 2.

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I also photographed this pretty juvenile eastern milk snake (Lampropeltis triangulum) that night.

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At Hog Prairie Jeff and I found 4 hogs.

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Unfortunately, one of the hogs had been dug out of its burrow and killed by some mammalian predator which decided not to eat it. Last year I found babies that had been dug up and killed but not consumed.

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This scat was nearby.

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P6160297 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

At nesting area 3, Jeff found this female Blanding’s turtle (Emydoidea blandingii) that had most likely just finished nesting.

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P6160299 by Carl Koch, on Flickr

On 6/18, Steve and Dan Barten, Dan’s son James, and Gery Hermann were up and found 6 burrowers and a gravid smooth green. Here’s a couple fresh burrows from that night.

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For the couple days after that it remained quite hot and I found few hogs burrowing. The activity seemed to be over on 6/21, as I found no hogs that night or the next. However, when Jason Hood and Josh Baity came up on 6/24, we found 3 hogs...must be somethin’ about those Illinoisians that attracts hogs!

Thanks again for checkin’ out my post!

Carl
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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Great shots!!!

Im not gonna lie those all made me a little jelous
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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really nice photos! good work
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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You have great finds in there and your photography is excellent. The pink flower is the prairie fame flower Talinium (Phemeranthus) rugospermus it is listed as special concern in the state.

Having said that, I feel I must say something about this picture.

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This preserve has signs all over that say it is prohibited to walk on the bluff. If you were with a researcher or had permission to be up there that is fine. But otherwise taking a picture from up on the bluff with the background so anyone can tell where it is is not a good idea in my opinion. The rule about not going up on the bluff is for good reason- to protect the animals and people who use the area. People who make decisions about which areas are open to public access do see these forums. If they see that their rules are not being followed they have the power to limit public access to an area. I know of at least one prairie which has been completely closed to public access after being open to the public for a while. I have been in limited contact with some of them and they are very upset by things like this. As someone who wants natural areas to remain open to the public, I strongly hope you and others consider what I am saying.

-Corey
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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Thanks for the compliments, everyone, and for the flower I.D., Corey!

The pic Corey is concerned about (which was not taken where he thinks it was) has been removed.

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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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Not trying to be a jerk but it really is the same area. Here is an example to illustrate what I am talking about. If you were at one end of a national park at a rock face and you saw a sign that said "no rockclimbing in xxxxx national park" would you assume that you could go to the other end of the same National Park and rockclimb?

I think there just aren't signs up there because that part isn't even supposed to be open to the public. The reason that I bring this up in the forum rather than via pm is that I have seen several people post pictures from the same place and I have heard complaints from the agencies that own these lands.

-Corey
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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Corey has valid points about not taking habitat shots, not overusing areas, and not angering agencies. There is some question as to whether or not the area in which I took the photos is open to the public, and both Corey and a friend of mine who did work at this specific site are looking into the matter. As I said, the pic has been removed from the post.

Carl
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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Carl and Corey, I'm glad this didn't turn into a meltdown. I honestly appreciate both of you being civil and adult about this situation. I'm glad to see civility on this board.
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Re: WI Herpotpourri, pt. 2: The Boys from CA & Hogs Nest Ear

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Just to clear the record, the area I was in IS open to the public.

Carl
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