2013 California Nominations
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2013 California Nominations
Here is our Nominations.
California Chapter Nominations.
President- Brian Hinds - Fundad
Vice President- Owen Holt - Owen ------ So Cal Regional Vice President- Brad Sillasen -Monklet
IB Board Member - John Lauermann- ricrabt
Conservation Officer - Lawrence Erickson - Calfirecap ------- So Cal Regional Conservation Officer- Robert Hess
Education Specialist - Jeff Nordland - SurfinHerp -------- Nor Cal Regional Education Specialist - Lucas Basulto
Secretary - Taylor Henry - Taylor Henry
A Huge Thank YOU to everyone that is taking the time to contribute to a worthy cause here.
If I missed something please let me know..
Our Chapter Rocks, and lets make 2013 our best year ever..
Fundad
California Chapter Nominations.
President- Brian Hinds - Fundad
Vice President- Owen Holt - Owen ------ So Cal Regional Vice President- Brad Sillasen -Monklet
IB Board Member - John Lauermann- ricrabt
Conservation Officer - Lawrence Erickson - Calfirecap ------- So Cal Regional Conservation Officer- Robert Hess
Education Specialist - Jeff Nordland - SurfinHerp -------- Nor Cal Regional Education Specialist - Lucas Basulto
Secretary - Taylor Henry - Taylor Henry
A Huge Thank YOU to everyone that is taking the time to contribute to a worthy cause here.
If I missed something please let me know..
Our Chapter Rocks, and lets make 2013 our best year ever..
Fundad
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I still think we should try to field Regional officers, if for no other reason than to set an example for the rest of the Chapters... and to show that the Ca chapter is still moving forward, rather than backwards. jim
Where we lead.. the rest will follow...
Where we lead.. the rest will follow...
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Robert said he would do Regional CO. He was nominated by Brian and seconed by Derek for CO and he deferred that to Regional with Lawrence as main, so I assume that's an accepted nomination for R-CO.hellihooks wrote:I still think we should try to field Regional officers, if for no other reason than to set an example for the rest of the Chapters... and to show that the Ca chapter is still moving forward, rather than backwards. jim
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Is there anyone else besides Robert Hess, who has been nominated or is there anyone that wants to full fill a regional office?
I'll add Robert
Fundad
BTW I am getting pretty busy, so I am going to be putting some of you to work. Ok Not really putting you to work, but I will be asking for help with a few items.
I'll add Robert
Fundad
BTW I am getting pretty busy, so I am going to be putting some of you to work. Ok Not really putting you to work, but I will be asking for help with a few items.
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Anyone else?
Fundad
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Still thinking... not a choice to be made lightly. jim
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I think it would be nice if you volunteered for regioanal VP, Jim, if that's what you are thinking about. With both the VP and CO now up in NorCal, it would be good to have some more representation down here in SoCal. That's why I will still be regional CO. As one of our goals next year should be to organize more events (other than surveys) to bring together members here in SoCal (something our brethren in NorCal have been doing all along), we could certainly use you as regional VP down here.
But if you just need a break from it all, I think we'd all understand. You've been at it pretty hard for a long time now.
Robert
But if you just need a break from it all, I think we'd all understand. You've been at it pretty hard for a long time now.
Robert
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Thank you Robert, but I will respectfully decline. I nominate Brad (Monklet) for So Cal Regional VP... jim
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I second Jims declination
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I second Monklet's nomination for Regional VP.
Robert
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Very kind Jim and Robert. Sure, I accept the nomination, why not? ...now, just what would be my duties?
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Good Deal Brad...
Like any of the appointments... the job is what you make of it. Technically... you could (with board approval) do anything any other officer might want to, or be called upon to do (which pretty much never happens)
New surveys...Public Education Opportunities... whatever comes down the pipe... It's good to have representation up in your 'neglected' area... jim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2Ch6WB ... edded#t=4s
Like any of the appointments... the job is what you make of it. Technically... you could (with board approval) do anything any other officer might want to, or be called upon to do (which pretty much never happens)
New surveys...Public Education Opportunities... whatever comes down the pipe... It's good to have representation up in your 'neglected' area... jim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2Ch6WB ... edded#t=4s
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... Moi? I am the neglector in my area.It's good to have representation up in your 'neglected' area
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Just an FYI, I am going to be "Asking" all board members to contribute at least 100 records to the database this year.
Fundad
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Awesome, Brad, thanks for joining the "Dirty Half-Dozen".
The duties of the (regional) VP, btw, are spelled out as follows in the bylaws:
"Vice-president:
Shall be responsible for the general membership meeting programs if and when the chapter decides to hold meetings. Shall perform the duties of the President at meetings when that person is absent, and may be asked to assist the President if necessary."
Robert
The duties of the (regional) VP, btw, are spelled out as follows in the bylaws:
"Vice-president:
Shall be responsible for the general membership meeting programs if and when the chapter decides to hold meetings. Shall perform the duties of the President at meetings when that person is absent, and may be asked to assist the President if necessary."
Robert
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Just a 2012 FYI:Fundad wrote:Just an FYI, I am going to be "Asking" all board members to contribute at least 100 records to the database this year.
Fundad
Holt, Owen 961
Hinds-AKA Fundad, Brian 820
Hess, Robert 297
Erickson, Lawrence 207
Nordland, Jeff 167
Lauermann AKA ricrabt, John 156
Henry, Taylor 67
Can we use our roll over minutes?
Brad? Brad? Bradley. Olly Olly Oxen Free! Brad? I seem to have trouble finding your records.
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Hmmm, they must've all gotten deleted, ...that's it they got deleted Well, another thing that would be tough is driving to meetings in SD or all over Socal ...I'm urban (and mileage) averseOwen wrote:Brad? Brad? Bradley. Olly Olly Oxen Free! Brad? I seem to have trouble finding your records.
As for data, seriously, Brian, that is a very reasonable qualification. If I can find a 100 herps I'll post 'em. I found about 50 less than that last year if you don't count fence and side-blotched ...and even maybe then. I do have a few in there, even a couple good ones, and hope to add more this coming season.
But I do write lots of fringe-element posts
All in all, I wouldn't nominate myself but I'd like to honor those who did ...I do believe in the organization and although I might have some rather heretical notions I'd like to challenge us with non-confrontationally just for conversation and perspective development.
Among the more tangible things I might bring to the table are my technical abilities, not that Don isn't all over that, but backup could never hurt, and if Don was amenable (and most wouldn't be), I might take on some feature addtions to the NAFHA site to ease his load.
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Nope Roll over minutes don't count..
Well since the only punishment of not making the 100 is a 10 lashes with a wet noodle, I am sure you will be ok Brad. But seriously if you got close I would take it. Nothing wrong with 50 snakes and 50 lizard pics.. Hell there was a request
for Uta's in the Santa Monica's, so it's all good data..
I think our board should lead by example, thats why I am "asking" for 100 or more each.
Owen, those records don't account for out of state or Mexico records.. I should be close to 1000 (Mex,AZ, and NM), John has AZ records, Lawrence has out of state records as well. See other thread for second scorecard thoughts.
BTW I am going to try and set up a contest between us and the Northeast Chapter this year.. If that happens, I really hate losing, so I ll be hounding all of you to enter more records...
Fundad
Well since the only punishment of not making the 100 is a 10 lashes with a wet noodle, I am sure you will be ok Brad. But seriously if you got close I would take it. Nothing wrong with 50 snakes and 50 lizard pics.. Hell there was a request
for Uta's in the Santa Monica's, so it's all good data..
I think our board should lead by example, thats why I am "asking" for 100 or more each.
Owen, those records don't account for out of state or Mexico records.. I should be close to 1000 (Mex,AZ, and NM), John has AZ records, Lawrence has out of state records as well. See other thread for second scorecard thoughts.
BTW I am going to try and set up a contest between us and the Northeast Chapter this year.. If that happens, I really hate losing, so I ll be hounding all of you to enter more records...
Fundad
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Brad, you can do it. Show me your War Face
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...is that like a c'mon er what?BrHi wrote:10 lashes with a wet noodle
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Owen, as much of a pinko as I am, I love that guy ..thanks, can't wait to show my therapist.
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...is that like a c'mon er what?
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Glad you had that one handy.
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Maybe we should chug over to mamby pamby land where maybe we can find some self confidence for you- you...monklet wrote:Owen, as much of a pinko as I am, I love that guy ..thanks, can't wait to show my therapist.
R. Lee Ermey rocks
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Owen wrote:Maybe we should chug over to mamby pamby land where maybe we can find some self confidence for you- you...
R. Lee Ermey rocks
"That's why yellow makes me sad I think".
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It should also go without saying that it's part of an Officer's duty to uphold the bylaws, as written. jim
http://nafha.org/bylaws
http://nafha.org/bylaws
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Can we have regional officers? Would we have to amend the bylaws for this?
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You have done a great job of seeing bylaws upheld Jim..
Though upholding bylaws is only a very small portion of what board members do, and discernment must be used at times when bylaws are in conflict with whats best for NAFHA, Species Conservation, Data Entry, and such especially those bylaws that are open to interpretation need to be rewritten.
I am extremely excited about this years board, and believe we will get some of the to do list done this year..
2013 May be our most productive year ever..
Fundad
Though upholding bylaws is only a very small portion of what board members do, and discernment must be used at times when bylaws are in conflict with whats best for NAFHA, Species Conservation, Data Entry, and such especially those bylaws that are open to interpretation need to be rewritten.
I am extremely excited about this years board, and believe we will get some of the to do list done this year..
2013 May be our most productive year ever..
Fundad
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Nope it's already covered.rpecora wrote:Can we have regional officers? Would we have to amend the bylaws for this?
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ARTICLE V. CHAPTERS
B. Chapters shall be managed by an elected Chapter Board of Directors consisting of a President and Vice President. If the chapter deems it necessary, a Secretary, Conservation Officer and Education Officer may be elected and/or appointed. The Chapter Board of Directors may also appoint regional Vice Presidents, Conservation Specialists and Education Specialists, or other offices, to represent the Chapter in specific geographical areas within the chapter that require official representation to conduct educational programs, field surveys, organized field outings and other official NAFHA functions.
B. Chapters shall be managed by an elected Chapter Board of Directors consisting of a President and Vice President. If the chapter deems it necessary, a Secretary, Conservation Officer and Education Officer may be elected and/or appointed. The Chapter Board of Directors may also appoint regional Vice Presidents, Conservation Specialists and Education Specialists, or other offices, to represent the Chapter in specific geographical areas within the chapter that require official representation to conduct educational programs, field surveys, organized field outings and other official NAFHA functions.
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Yep, it's all good. Good idea too.
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The funny part is, due to an unintentional error when actually rewriting the bylaws (6 months after the members voted) the 'regional representation' model we're employing this year now doesn't jive with what the bylaws now actually say...
But... the changes made that put us at odds with the bylaws were done in error, and never voted on by the members... so I think that we (Ca) are on firm ground, for continuing to employ what was/is the most logical and effective model for Chapter growth. As a 'mistake' it could (and should) be changed back by the current IC... but he seems to have gone all 'lame duck' on us... That said, our incoming 2nd IBM for Ca (John L.) is a staunch 'member's rights' advocate, and I trust he will soon get this error corrected.
I'm VERY PROUD that our Chapter continues to set the example for the rest of the Nation of how well regional representation can work.
And for the record... I don't care what the members decide needs changing... so long as it's done right. Change the bylaws first, to allow the changes we want to make... not the other way around, lest we lose creditability as an organization. THAT'S the reason I've always been (to put it nicely) a 'stickler' when it comes to upholding the bylaws...
We've worked SO HARD to gain respect, and have... let's make SURE we keep it!... jim
But... the changes made that put us at odds with the bylaws were done in error, and never voted on by the members... so I think that we (Ca) are on firm ground, for continuing to employ what was/is the most logical and effective model for Chapter growth. As a 'mistake' it could (and should) be changed back by the current IC... but he seems to have gone all 'lame duck' on us... That said, our incoming 2nd IBM for Ca (John L.) is a staunch 'member's rights' advocate, and I trust he will soon get this error corrected.
I'm VERY PROUD that our Chapter continues to set the example for the rest of the Nation of how well regional representation can work.
And for the record... I don't care what the members decide needs changing... so long as it's done right. Change the bylaws first, to allow the changes we want to make... not the other way around, lest we lose creditability as an organization. THAT'S the reason I've always been (to put it nicely) a 'stickler' when it comes to upholding the bylaws...
We've worked SO HARD to gain respect, and have... let's make SURE we keep it!... jim
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Let me see if I can figure this... You're saying that we need to be sure that any amendments/additions to the bylaws are voted upon and approved by the members according to prescribed process? If so, I say "Aye!".
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Yes (and here's the important part ) do all that BEFORE 'new actions' are administered... NOT change bylaws 'after the fact' to accommodate said changes. You'd THINK that would be a given, but... jimmonklet wrote:Let me see if I can figure this... You're saying that we need to be sure that any amendments/additions to the bylaws are voted upon and approved by the members according to prescribed process? If so, I say "Aye!".
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Jim, please just write up the bylaw change. (There is nothing preventing you from doing so, and The IC is not the only one responsible for it). Submit it to the IB (Which you are still a member of), and lets be done with it.
ARTICLE XV: AMENDMENTS TO THESE BYLAWS
These bylaws may be reviewed by the International Board of Directors. A proposal for a change in the bylaws may be submitted to the board in writing (either in person or on the NAFHA forums) by any member at any time.
Amendments must be accepted by a vote pursuant to Article VI - A.
And we will put it up for vote on the IB at the beginning of the year.
Simple
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ARTICLE XV: AMENDMENTS TO THESE BYLAWS
These bylaws may be reviewed by the International Board of Directors. A proposal for a change in the bylaws may be submitted to the board in writing (either in person or on the NAFHA forums) by any member at any time.
Amendments must be accepted by a vote pursuant to Article VI - A.
And we will put it up for vote on the IB at the beginning of the year.
Simple
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Brian,
I appreciate and applaud that you want to do things 'by the book' but with all due respect, to use your own words: "discernment must be used at times when bylaws are in conflict with whats best for NAFHA"
This is one of those times. It shouldn't require a vote, to rectify something that was done without member approval.
This is in fact, one of the ONLY instances I can think of, where an IC could exercise any authority... since the IC is theoretically supposed to be the #1 'upholder' of the bylaws.
You could (and IMO should) as your 1st act as IC, say "This was done without Member approval, so it's getting changed back, until such time as the members get to decide if it's a change they want". In addition to it actually being 'your job' to do so... it would send a clear message to everyone, that things WILL be done right, with you at the helm. Think about it. jim
I appreciate and applaud that you want to do things 'by the book' but with all due respect, to use your own words: "discernment must be used at times when bylaws are in conflict with whats best for NAFHA"
This is one of those times. It shouldn't require a vote, to rectify something that was done without member approval.
This is in fact, one of the ONLY instances I can think of, where an IC could exercise any authority... since the IC is theoretically supposed to be the #1 'upholder' of the bylaws.
You could (and IMO should) as your 1st act as IC, say "This was done without Member approval, so it's getting changed back, until such time as the members get to decide if it's a change they want". In addition to it actually being 'your job' to do so... it would send a clear message to everyone, that things WILL be done right, with you at the helm. Think about it. jim
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With all due respect I am not going to open the year with a dictation, nor does the IC have that authority.
As I said Present this to the IB properly and by the book, and I will ask the IB if they are ok with changing it, should be a slam dunk right?
Please stop posting about it and how it wasn't handled correctly and help fix it, according to our bylaws.
Please be a part of our solutions, and not add fuel to the problems we face, please.
Thank You In Advance
Fundad
As I said Present this to the IB properly and by the book, and I will ask the IB if they are ok with changing it, should be a slam dunk right?
Please stop posting about it and how it wasn't handled correctly and help fix it, according to our bylaws.
Please be a part of our solutions, and not add fuel to the problems we face, please.
Thank You In Advance
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No... I'm done fighting and arguing for what's right. I'll put it on my list of things that the IB didn't follow through on/get done, and post it in the IBM forum.
It's up to you, as Chapter Pres AND IC, (have fun restructuring the whole IBM Article, in the bylaws, to accommodate THAT ) whether or not you want Ca's actions to correspond to the bylaws.
My absence will probably be the only statement I'll be making. jim
It's up to you, as Chapter Pres AND IC, (have fun restructuring the whole IBM Article, in the bylaws, to accommodate THAT ) whether or not you want Ca's actions to correspond to the bylaws.
My absence will probably be the only statement I'll be making. jim
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Very Typical of you Jim, I offer to put it up to vote for you, all you have to do is put it together. But you would rather just have something to fight/complain about..
So one last time please put it together for us, and we will vote on it..
I know your hearts in the right place Jim, but please step back and think about what I am offering you.
You are tearing us and NAFHA apart with your crusade.
Please Jim
Fundad
So one last time please put it together for us, and we will vote on it..
I know your hearts in the right place Jim, but please step back and think about what I am offering you.
You are tearing us and NAFHA apart with your crusade.
Please Jim
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