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 Post subject: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 7th, 2013, 4:38 pm 
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This post is purely to show Zach what he missed out on. hope "working" and "contributing to society" was worth it.

This was a nice almost delta-ish king that was flipped on the yolo bypass survey. He was found with the racer's head in his mouth and proceeded to down the snake while we watched. Thanks to YoloDave for being our guide for the day.

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you sold out man...you used to be about the herping...


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 8th, 2013, 4:29 am 
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a very fortuitous find to be sure, that coluber had to be as long or longer than the king given its girth.
I've always pondered why other ophidians are willing to share the underside of a board w/ getulus, we've all seen pix of numerous pits & crotes over the years tucked away w/ kings, yet these crotes actually have a specific defensive behavior for getulus (interestingly, our western pits do not seem to react to their scent). Another conundrum is how does an ophiophagous snake in a dark confined space know how big a potential prey snake is and weather or not it can be swallowed?
Thnx for posting your find.


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 8th, 2013, 6:17 am 

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back in the 70's, I had a King eat a glossy that was too big... went for like 4 days with an inch of tail sticking out of his mouth... :shock: Held it down though... :P
I've always wondered bout other snakes hanging with kings under boards, as well. i guess snakes never consider future events... everything's fine until... it's too late. :roll:
Hell... I don't even keep rosys together anymore, after having one eat another slightly smaller one... :? jim


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 8th, 2013, 1:09 pm 
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and as flipped... before the swallowin'.

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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 8th, 2013, 4:03 pm 
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Dang, that's a massive meal! It would be cool if this shot was a racer eating a king but sometimes the coluber still come up :)Image


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 8:05 am 
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Is that gopher a GB? Can you say what general area that is in?


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 8:11 am 
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liucommajames wrote:
This post is purely to show Zach what he missed out on. hope "working" and "contributing to society" was worth it.

you sold out man...you used to be about the herping...



UGH.....

I've changed, man....

That is truly an amazing set of photos/find.

See you this weekend :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 10:14 am 
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That is amazing to see, and serendipitous!


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 12:02 pm 
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Very cool, always a pleasure to witness predation in the wild for me atleast, even though I do usually feel bad for the prey. Its natural behavior at its finest.

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sometimes the coluber still come up
Most definitely, I have seen quite a few photos over the years of racers consuming other snake species. I don't remember if it was someone on here who posted it but there was a series of a black racer feeding on a timber rattler! If I recall the racer abandoned the rattler cause it got stressed out by the people around but i'm not sure. And before someone suggests it, no I didn't confuse a black racer with an indigo snake. :)


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PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 12:17 pm 
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Wow, that is a very cool find!


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 Post subject: Re: It's a snake eat snake world (CA king eating a YB racer)
PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 2:04 pm 
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It's amazing how 'crushed' the front 3" of that racer were. The king made the racer look like roadkill. It also didn't mind (much) the half dozen herpers thrusting cameras in there. There was no way it would give up its 'precious'. I actually lifted the racer tail once the king backed into the grass so that I could replace the board. Some shaky video:



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