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Copperhead morphs

Post by Gainesvilleherp » April 27th, 2013, 11:13 pm

does anybody know of or have seen any copperhead morphs? I've heard rumors floating about the internet but have not been able to find any photo proof. link to some pics if you have 'em.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Jeff » April 28th, 2013, 6:32 am

I found an adult in Louisiana that was completely striped from head to tail base. It came from an area that produced a striped juvenile. I have a slide of the adult, but no scan.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Kevin Messenger » April 28th, 2013, 4:41 pm

The NC Museum of natural sciences had a melanistic copperhead for about 20 yrs before she finally kicked the bucket maybe 5 years ago. I never photographed her, but I know some people have. When they found her back in the 80's she was gravid. Gave birth to all norms, attempts were made to bred back with the mom, but she never mated again.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by DracoRJC » April 28th, 2013, 5:14 pm

Kevin Messenger wrote:The NC Museum of natural sciences had a melanistic copperhead for about 20 yrs before she finally kicked the bucket maybe 5 years ago. I never photographed her, but I know some people have. When they found her back in the 80's she was gravid. Gave birth to all norms, attempts were made to bred back with the mom, but she never mated again.
Here she is - http://toddpusser.photoshelter.com/imag ... VKu3J4Aqfs

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Kevin Messenger » April 28th, 2013, 5:18 pm

that would be the girl

that was toward the end, in her chunky days

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Soopaman » April 28th, 2013, 5:25 pm

DracoRJC wrote:
Kevin Messenger wrote:The NC Museum of natural sciences had a melanistic copperhead for about 20 yrs before she finally kicked the bucket maybe 5 years ago. I never photographed her, but I know some people have. When they found her back in the 80's she was gravid. Gave birth to all norms, attempts were made to bred back with the mom, but she never mated again.
Here she is - http://toddpusser.photoshelter.com/imag ... VKu3J4Aqfs
Dang, that'd be an easy way to get bit. Imagine making the grab for that snake. I'd never guess it was a copperhead just from looking at it.

This is the only funky "morph" of a copperhead I've ever seen. Mostly grayish/pink with a weird pattern:

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Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (Southern Copperhead) by Kyle L.E., on Flickr

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Gainesvilleherp » April 28th, 2013, 6:50 pm

sweet copperheads, im starting to breed them and just wanted to see some things i can dream about lol.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Mark Brown » April 29th, 2013, 1:37 am

Here are a few I had saved on my computer. I have no idea where the first two came from (probably from FHF), but I'm pretty sure the last one is from an old friend in Mississippi who caught it many years ago.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by MuayThaipan » April 29th, 2013, 5:17 pm

That spotted morph is common in a certain mountain in Ky I had 2 I collected but unfortunately both where males its apparently a co-Dom trait as well would be neat to see what to bred together would produce.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Nshepard » April 29th, 2013, 9:00 pm

Kevin Messenger wrote:The NC Museum of natural sciences had a melanistic copperhead for about 20 yrs before she finally kicked the bucket maybe 5 years ago. I never photographed her, but I know some people have. When they found her back in the 80's she was gravid. Gave birth to all norms, attempts were made to bred back with the mom, but she never mated again.
There was another specimen from WV. I thought you were around when everyone in the lab was debating that specimen (preserved).

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Kevin Messenger » April 29th, 2013, 9:18 pm

Nshepard wrote:
Kevin Messenger wrote:The NC Museum of natural sciences had a melanistic copperhead for about 20 yrs before she finally kicked the bucket maybe 5 years ago. I never photographed her, but I know some people have. When they found her back in the 80's she was gravid. Gave birth to all norms, attempts were made to bred back with the mom, but she never mated again.
There was another specimen from WV. I thought you were around when everyone in the lab was debating that specimen (preserved).
Yeah. I was around. I remember it. But I also remember we weren't 100% sure on the ID, but more like 90% sure. Since it was too degraded

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Nshepard » May 1st, 2013, 9:08 am

Kevin Messenger wrote:
Nshepard wrote:
Kevin Messenger wrote:The NC Museum of natural sciences had a melanistic copperhead for about 20 yrs before she finally kicked the bucket maybe 5 years ago. I never photographed her, but I know some people have. When they found her back in the 80's she was gravid. Gave birth to all norms, attempts were made to bred back with the mom, but she never mated again.
There was another specimen from WV. I thought you were around when everyone in the lab was debating that specimen (preserved).
Yeah. I was around. I remember it. But I also remember we weren't 100% sure on the ID, but more like 90% sure. Since it was too degraded
Huh. I believe I have photos of it somewhere, I'll have to check.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by beanie » May 1st, 2013, 4:17 pm

There are quite a few in Louisiana. Here's the original male that produced the hets.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by John Martin » May 1st, 2013, 9:04 pm

beanie wrote:Image
Ding, ding! We have a winner! Although I really dig the spotted morph also.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by chrish » May 2nd, 2013, 12:15 pm

Morph, smorph....a good looking laticinctus blows all the striped and spotted ones away IMHO.

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I've always said if Copperheads were restricted to a small region of China or worse, a few mountains in central mexico, they would be considered the most gorgeous snakes in the world and would be $3000 a pair in captivity.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by Mark Brown » May 2nd, 2013, 12:23 pm

chrish wrote:Morph, smorph....a good looking laticinctus blows all the striped and spotted ones away IMHO.

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I've always said if Copperheads were restricted to a small region of China or worse, a few mountains in central mexico, they would be considered the most gorgeous snakes in the world and would be $3000 a pair in captivity.
I'm sure with you there. I've always thought that Copperheads were the most beautiful North American snake.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by John Williams » May 3rd, 2013, 8:18 pm

What Chris said.

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Post by AtroxKR » May 6th, 2013, 11:09 am

I'm with Chris and Mark on this one!

However, I did see this pic a while back of the Axanthic found in College Station, here in TX. Though I prefer a normal, this is one sweet looking snake.

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Re: Copperhead morphs

Post by chris drake » May 9th, 2013, 9:14 am

Found this southern last night. Love the aberrant pattern.
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and this BB from the same area last year.

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