Moccasin! (same as SC Chapter)

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Moccasin! (same as SC Chapter)

Post by Rman » May 5th, 2013, 12:34 pm

Eel Moccasin! that is. I live on the extreme western edge of the rainbow snake's range. I have been hoping to see one since I became interested in snakes about 35 years ago. It is so seldom seen around here that it's existence seems more like myth or legend than reality. While at work last Wednesday, my brother calls me about an unusual 10" snake he found in his pool filter described with having lines on its back. I am unmoved by his initial description of a garter snake, i'm thinking. After further description my emotions are building to dangerous levels. I don't clearly remember the drive to my brother's house, but I should have been arrested. When I arrived, Speechless....

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Post by condyle » May 5th, 2013, 12:39 pm

B...eautiful!

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Post by Jeff » May 5th, 2013, 1:12 pm

What was that address again? I'll bet I can beat everyone on this forum to his house.

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Post by Rman » May 5th, 2013, 1:18 pm

Trust me, no one on this forum wants to tangle with my brother. Haha

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » May 5th, 2013, 1:26 pm

Jeff wrote:What was that address again? I'll bet I can beat everyone on this forum to his house.
Sounds like a challenge to me.

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » May 5th, 2013, 1:28 pm

Sweet! I think we need to take a group trip to your brother's backyard.

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Post by Rman » May 5th, 2013, 1:50 pm

So it appears that prime rainbow snake habitat is neighborhoods with swimming pools. They like the same habitat as Dekays snakes. Who would of ever thought?

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Post by Eric East » May 5th, 2013, 2:30 pm

I never get tired of seeing those!

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Post by Jeff » May 5th, 2013, 2:50 pm

I've checked my pool filter 8 times in the past 20 minutes. No luck yet, but here goes another try....

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Post by Antonsrkn » May 5th, 2013, 3:04 pm

Haha I almost skipped this thread just because of the title, glad I didn't... though I wonder how many people passed over because they didn't want to look at another old cottonmouth. Awesome snake!

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Post by Tamara D. McConnell » May 5th, 2013, 4:14 pm

I gotta get a pool.

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Post by Soopaman » May 5th, 2013, 5:10 pm

Armin, you find the ugliest animals!

See you and this beauty this weekend, bud!

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Post by Nshepard » May 5th, 2013, 6:29 pm

Nice!

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Post by ksuglennj » May 5th, 2013, 6:32 pm

Very cool. I got the text about this from Chris the other day. I said no pic no snake, well now I see the pic.

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Post by Coluber Constrictor » May 5th, 2013, 7:03 pm

That's probably the coolest thing I've seen on FHF all year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think a rainbow snake has been seen in that state for a LONG time (like, decades?).

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Post by Rman » May 5th, 2013, 7:16 pm

Coluber Constrictor wrote:That's probably the coolest thing I've seen on FHF all year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think a rainbow snake has been seen in that state for a LONG time (like, decades?).
Thank you,
I would have to defer this kind of question to Jeff. I'm sure he knows the details. I believe it has been close to two decades for the river it was nearest to.

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » May 5th, 2013, 7:23 pm

Coluber Constrictor wrote:That's probably the coolest thing I've seen on FHF all year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think a rainbow snake has been seen in that state for a LONG time (like, decades?).
I believe one popped up in St. Tammany Parish a few years back.

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Post by John Andermann » May 5th, 2013, 8:06 pm

Very cool. If I remember right from when Jeff told me a few years back, they haven't been found in the BR area since like 1986.

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Post by John Martin » May 5th, 2013, 8:54 pm

Simply friggin' speechless! :shock: And the pic does justice to that animal's beauty - possibly one of the most beautiful snakes I've seen. Congrats to you and your bro for finding such a rare example in that area. :beer:

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Post by justinm » May 6th, 2013, 4:44 am

That is a fantastic find. It's always people who don't know what they have that see or find the best stuff.

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Post by Jeff » May 6th, 2013, 6:35 am

For that particular drainage, which contains the westernmost streams in the rainbow's range, there are a few specimens from the 1960s to 1980s. Records that are considered reliable are for one found in a swamp along the river about 1993-1994, and one found swimming in the river by a biologist who was fishing in the late 1990s. The latter was from way upstream where the river still runs clear. There are a few recent verified and reliable reports from further east in the Pearl River drainage.

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Post by Rman » May 6th, 2013, 1:33 pm

I'm glad so many of y'all enjoyed this account. I'm happy to have shared it. Thanks Jeff for the historical background.

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Post by Steve Barten » May 6th, 2013, 2:54 pm

That is way cool.
The best part is, at 10 inches, there is some reproduction going on in that population.
If it was in the pool filter, would I be correct in assuming the poor thing was dead? I hope not, but if so, will you donate the specimen to a local museum?

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Post by Rman » May 6th, 2013, 5:01 pm

Steve Barten wrote:That is way cool.
The best part is, at 10 inches, there is some reproduction going on in that population.
If it was in the pool filter, would I be correct in assuming the poor thing was dead? I hope not, but if so, will you donate the specimen to a local museum?
Thanks Steve,
It is alive and eating tadpoles. I kept the snake because it didn't seem like a good place to free it and I have been successful in raising a mud snake. There is one party that is going to get any sheds for DNA and another party (Museum) that will get the carcass if it dies.

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Post by John Williams » May 6th, 2013, 5:53 pm

Wow, great find!

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