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Our species list for the year so far - 153 and counting

Post by chrish » July 11th, 2013, 4:24 am

OK, in order for us to strive for our (maybe unrealistic?) goal of 200 species in the database this year, here's what Don cooked up:

This is all the entries by SC members in our chapter boundaries so far this year - http://www.naherp.com/reports/life-list ... &year=2013

That list includes all taxa entered, but a pared it down to just the 153 species we have entered so far. I deleted Pseudacris nigrita since it was really fouquettei.

Salamanders
Ambystoma maculatum
Ambystoma opacum
Ambystoma talpoideum
Ambystoma texanum
Amphiuma tridactylum
Desmognathus conanti
Eurycea cirrigea
Eurycea guttolineata
Eurycea multiplicata
Eurycea quadridigitata
Necturus beyeri
Notophthalmus viridescens
Plethodon kisatchie
Plethodon mississippi
Plethodon serratus
Plethodon websteri
Pseudotriton ruber
Pseudotriton montanus
Siren intermedia

Frogs
Acris crepitans
Acris gryllus
Anaxyrus americanus
Anaxyrus cognatus
Anaxyrus debilis
Anaxyrus fowleri
Anaxyrus punctatus
Anaxyrus speciosus
Anaxyrus terrestris
Anaxyrus woodhousei
Craugastor augusti
Eleutherodactylus cystignathoides
Eleutherodactylus marnockii
Eleutherodactylus planirostris
Gastrophryne carolinensis
Gastrophryne olivacea
Hyla avivoca
Hyla chrysoscelis
Hyla cinerea
Hyla femoralis
Hyla gratiosa
Hyla squirella
Hyla versicolor
Hypopachus variolosus
Lithobates areolatus
Lithobates berlandieri
Lithobates blairi
Lithobates catesbeianus
Lithobates clamitans
Lithobates grylio
Lithobates palustris
Lithobates sphenocephalus
Ollotis nebulifer
Pseudacris clarkii
Pseudacris crucifer
Pseudacris fouquettei (entered as P. nigrita, P. feriarum, and P. triseriata)
Pseudacris streckeri
Scaphiopus couchii
Scaphiopus holbrookii
Scaphiopus hurterii
Spea bombifrons

Crocodilians (I think we are done with this group :lol: )
Alligator mississippiensis

Lizards
Anolis carolinensis
Anolis sagrei
Aspidoscelis gularis
Aspidoscelis inornata
Aspidoscelis sexlineata
Coleonyx brevis
Coleonyx reticulatus
Cophosaurus texanus
Crotaphytus reticulatus
Ctenosaura pectinata
Hemidactylus turcicus
Holbrookia maculata
Phrynosoma cornutum
Phrynosoma modestum
Plestiodon fasciatus
Plestiodon laticeps
Sceloporus consobrinus
Sceloporus grammicus
Sceloporus olivaceus
Sceloporus poinsettii
Sceloporus undulatus
Sceloporus variabilis
Scincella lateralis

Snakes
Agkistrodon contortrix
Agkistrodon piscivorus
Arizona elegans
Bogertophis subocularis
Carphophis amoenus
Carphophis vermis
Coluber constrictor
Coluber flagellum
Crotalus atrox
Crotalus horridus
Crotalus lepidus
Crotalus molossus
Crotalus viridis
Diadophis punctatus
Farancia abacura
Gyalopion canum
Heterodon nasicus
Heterodon platirhinos
Hypsiglena jani
Lampropeltis calligaster
Lampropeltis getula
Lampropeltis triangulum
Leptotyphlops dulcis
Micrurus tener
Nerodia clarkii
Nerodia cyclopion
Nerodia erythrogaster
Nerodia fasciata
Nerodia rhombifer
Nerodia sipedon
Opheodrys aestivus
Pantherophis bairdii
Pantherophis emoryi
Pantherophis guttatus
Pantherophis obsoletus
Pantherophis slowinskii
Pituophis catenifer
Ramphotyphlops braminus
Regina grahamii
Regina rigida
Rhinocheilus lecontei
Sistrurus catenatus
Sistrurus miliarius
Storeria dekayi
Tantilla gracilis
Thamnophis cyrtopsis
Thamnophis marcianus
Thamnophis proximus
Thamnophis sauritus
Thamnophis sirtalis
Tropidoclonion lineatum
Virginia striatula
Virginia valeriae


Turtles
Apalone spinifera
Chelonia mydas
Chelydra serpentina
Gopherus berlandieri
Gopherus polyphemus
Kinosternon flavescens
Kinosternon subrubrum
Macrochelys temminckii
Malaclemys terrapin
Pseudemys concinna
Pseudemys texana
Sternotherus carinatus
Sternotherus odoratus
Terrapene carolina
Terrapene ornata
Trachemys scripta

So...what can we add?
Can we get 47 more species this year? :lol:

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » July 11th, 2013, 5:34 am

Thanks for posting Chris. I tried to do this myself last week (wife had a bad movie playing one evening), but never managed to finish. It's going to be a challenge, but I've come up with a few things limited to SE Louisiana that I can hopefully add before the year is through and I'm sure you have a sizable list of possibilities to the south and west of you as well. Now we just need someone to begin knocking off salamanders in AR and we'll be there in no time.

Also, One thing to note when considering how far we have to go is that Pseudacris foquettei has been reported under 3 separate species this year (based on notes in the entries). As a result, it's probably worth subtracting 2 from our total count.

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Post by chris_mcmartin » July 11th, 2013, 5:34 am

chrish wrote: pared it down to just the 126 species we have entered so far (the 132 on the chapter records includes things only ID'd to genus):
I'm glad you caught that...for example, the Terrapene sp. was probably mine which I recently entered. Most of the time I can easily ID between the two species, even driving at highway speed. However, that particular DOR was sufficiently mangled that I couldn't make an accurate determination and I couldn't stop to check.

I even put in a DOR "snake" (no further clarification due to aforementioned trip constraints); it still indicates herps were moving at that snapshot in time. I didn't see it listed on the species list, so I guess you have to at least narrow it down to genus for the algorithm to display it.

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Post by jlzachary1 » July 11th, 2013, 8:33 am

I see that heterodon nasicus is still missing, i look for these every week and have found two DoRs but now i will redouble my efforts.

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Post by Soopaman » July 11th, 2013, 9:22 am

jlzachary1 wrote:I see that heterodon nasicus is still missing, i look for these every week and have found two DoRs but now i will redouble my efforts.
You can include DORs in the database. Those would show up on this list.

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Post by chris_mcmartin » July 11th, 2013, 9:44 am

Soopaman wrote:
jlzachary1 wrote:I see that heterodon nasicus is still missing, i look for these every week and have found two DoRs but now i will redouble my efforts.
You can include DORs in the database. Those would show up on this list.

I second that "motion." I have a LOT of DORs in the database...it's good info (in my opinion)--confirmation of presence of a given species, some indication of population density, etc.

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Post by jlzachary1 » July 11th, 2013, 10:28 am

well then i will figure out how to add things to the database then.

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » July 11th, 2013, 10:46 am

**EDITED**

Alright, I have too much time on my hands at the office this afternoon, so I went ahead and pulled up a list of LA herps for comparison sake. The list below is broken down into "Possible" and "Within Range." Some of the within range species are just ones I'm unfamiliar with in the state, others (ie. Black Pine Snakes) haven't been documented in 50 years. At a minimum, there's a lot more potential left than my initial list posted over lunch. (note: some taxonomy may not line up with the database as I'm rushing through this)

Here's what is left in Louisiana:

Salamanders:
Possible:
Eurycea cirrigera
Amphiuma means

Within Range:
Ambystoma tigrinum
Desmognathus auriculatus
Hemidactylium scutatum
Necturus beyeri
Necturus louisianensis
Pseudotriton montanus


Anurans:
Possible:
Anaxyrus quercicus
Lithobates palustris

Within Range:
Lithobates aereolata
Lithobates sevosa
Pseudacris ornata


Lizards:
Possible:
Plestiodon inexpectatus
Within Range:
Ophisaurus attenuatus
Ophisaurus ventralis
Plestiodon anthracinus
Plestiodon obtusirostris


Snakes:
Possible:
Farancia erytrogramma
Nerodia sipedon
Pantherophis slowinskii
Storeria occipitomaculata
Virginia valeriae

Within Range:
Cemophora coccinea
Crotalus adamanteus
Micrurus fulvius
Pituophis melanoleucus
Pituophis ruthveni
Rhadinea flavilata
Tantilla coronata
Tantilla gracilis


Turtles:
Possible:
Apalone mutica
Graptemys sp.
(3x)
Sternotherus carinatus[/i]
Within Range:
Chrysemys dorsalis
Deirochelys reticularia
Gopherus polyphemus
Sternotherus minor

4 species of sea turtle

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Post by chrish » July 11th, 2013, 11:32 am

We don't have Thamnophis marcianus? Really? That's embarrasing since it is the most common snake around here. I can guarantee one of those with ease.

If I get to make the trip I would like to make to the southern Panhandle, I might be able to add (it has to rain when I would have time to go!):

Anaxyrus woodhousei
Anaxyrus cognatus
Lithobates blairi
Spea bombifrons
Spea multiplicata
Uta stansburiana
Plestiodon obsoletus
Gambelia maybe
Arizona elegans
Heterodon nasicus


Closer to home I think I could add:
Plethodon albagula
Eurycea species (might be able to get a Central TX spring dweller or two)
Urosaurus ornatus
Crotaphytus collaris
Coluber schotti and/or C. taeniatus
Graptemys versa
Graptemys caglei

There are a bunch of Rio Grande Valley species I could get in a weekend down there:

Sceloporus variabilis (actually, there are on campus where I work)
Sceloporus cyanogenys
Holbrookia propinqua
Drymobius
Drymarchon
Gopherus berlandieri
Aspidoscelis laredoensis possibly
Crotaphytus reticulatus is tough, but doable

If it rains in the valley,
Rhinella marina is pretty common
Smilisca baudinii is easy if it rains enough
Rhinophrynus dorsalis maybe if it rains enough

Chelonia mydas is easy on the coast here. If I do a warbler trip in September, I just have to walk out on the jetty and snap a photo.

If alterna hunting wasn't so boring, I might even have a go at Lampropeltis alterna and Pantherophis bairdii.

We can do this!!

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Post by jlzachary1 » July 11th, 2013, 12:03 pm

i can do anaxyrus woodhousei tonight, i can do cognatus fairly easily as well. I may be able to go to crotaphytus collaris country this weekend as well. i actually have seen tons of woodhousei and cognatus all spring while out looking for heterodon nasicus so i will just look in my records and make updates.

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Post by Soopaman » July 11th, 2013, 5:04 pm

There's a few members that don't add to the database that have found alterna, bairdii and nasicus.

I found several schotti in Aransas and San Patricio counties in May. Thought I had one in the DB.

I've been looking for a slowinski where I found them last year but haven't had any luck. We need some rain.

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Post by Shane_TX » July 11th, 2013, 6:36 pm

I can add cyanogenys and a tortoise to the list with pictures. I do lack photos of mydas and marcianus and schotti. Can someone bump this again in December?

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Post by jlzachary1 » July 12th, 2013, 8:49 am

i tried to add that stuff to the database but for some reason my login and password isn't working even after they resend me a new password. After i get it fixed I will add those species i can.

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Post by chris_mcmartin » July 12th, 2013, 9:13 am

I have records for checkered garter and tortoise (found dead in a fence), but it's been taking me a long time to synchronize my paper records, my HERP Mobile records, and my HERP Mobile records that "fell through the cracks" and didn't upload due to some glitches I've been experiencing.

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Post by chris_mcmartin » July 13th, 2013, 12:13 pm

It will probably be a little over a week before I can continue sorting out my Snake Days trip records, but at least looking at the overall naherp map I can still make out my trips from the Kansas City area to Branson MO back in May, and from KC through OKC to West Texas during Snake Days last month, thanks to the DOR observations.

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Post by Soopaman » July 13th, 2013, 1:23 pm

I can probably get some folks to enter a Leptodeira record as well as a few of the western snakes. Can't remember everything they got out around Sanderson, but I think there's a couple not on the list. Ground snake I know they got for sure.

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Post by chrish » July 15th, 2013, 6:29 am

If you do add something that is not on my initial list at the top, post your addition here so I can keep the list up to date.
I can get it off the original link as well, but it would be easier just to read it off here.

Thx,
Chris

And while we are keeping score, kudos to the LA folks :beer: :

LA - 39 of 64 parishes documented so far this year (61%)
OK - 15 of 77 counties (19%)
AR - 5 of 75 counties (7%)
TX - 54 of 254 counties (21%)

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Post by chrish » July 22nd, 2013, 7:22 pm

Went down to the valley to try and add an easy species - Sceloporus variabilis. Went to my guaranteed spot for them (Santa Ana NWR) but instead found several Sceloporus grammicus instead. This is odd because I've never seen more than one grammicus per day down there. I saw six individuals at least.

And I photographed a DOR Thamnophis marcianus as well.

I'll put them in the database this week.

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Post by Soopaman » July 22nd, 2013, 7:33 pm

Added a Tantilla gracilis, Chris.

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Post by chris_mcmartin » July 22nd, 2013, 8:07 pm

In another quirk of the HERP Mobile app, most of my records synced up this afternoon (around 40-50 records which had been building up since last month, in addition to the ones which successfully uploaded from the same time frame). I'm working on adding pics, elevations, etc.

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Post by chrish » August 27th, 2013, 6:11 am

141 species and counting.

Maybe 200 was a bit "pie in the sky-ish", but certainly we could get another 25 or 30 this year?

I haven't done my part in a while, but hopefully will get a chance to do some fall herping....maybe?

Still a few obvious whiffs....

No one has seen a Collared Lizard this year (other than reticulatus)?

My South Texas potential species list that I posted before is still wide open.

Not too bad so far. With only 1790 entries we've managed 141 species.
By comparison, the CA chapter has 6500+ entries with only 113 species.

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Post by jlzachary1 » August 27th, 2013, 3:46 pm

is there a way to make just a list of what we haven't found. I am pretty sure i can get a collared lizard.

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » August 28th, 2013, 9:54 am

I haven't really contributed much, if anything, to the naherp the last few months, but I'll try to get out in the next few weeks as conditions are slowly improving (heat index around 90 instead of ~110). If I can get out to the eastern most Florida Parishes, I should have a shot at a half dozen or so species that we're still lacking.

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Post by chrish » August 28th, 2013, 10:41 am

jlzachary1 wrote:is there a way to make just a list of what we haven't found. I am pretty sure i can get a collared lizard.
Not really since the database doesn't have "potential" ranges of species.

Here are the species that have been entered in the past for our chapter region but not yet this year.

Ambystoma annulatum
Ambystoma mavortium
Amphiuma means
Desmognathus auriculatus
Desmognathus brimleyorum
Eurycea cirrigera
Eurycea latitans
Eurycea longicauda
Eurycea lucifuga
Eurycea neotenes
Eurycea troglodytes
Eurycea tynerensis
Hemidactylium scutatum
Necturus beyeri
Plethodon albagula
Plethodon angusticlavius
Plethodon caddoensis
Plethodon cinereus
Plethodon fourchensis
Plethodon ouachitae
Plethodon sequoyah

Anaxyrus houstonensis
Anaxyrus quercicus
Hyla arenicolor
Lithobates areolatus
Lithobates palustris
Ollotis valliceps - doesn't really occur in our region
Pseudacris triseriata - doesn't really occur in our region
Rhinella marina
Smilisca baudinii
Spea bombifrons
Spea multiplicata

Aspidoscelis exsanguis
Aspidoscelis laredoensis
Aspidoscelis marmorata
Aspidoscelis septemvittata
Aspidoscelis tesselata
Crotaphytus collaris
Gambelia wislizenii
Gerrhonotus infernalis
Holbrookia approximans
Holbrookia lacerata
Holbrookia propinqua
Ophisaurus attenuatus
Plestiodon anthracinus
Plestiodon inexpectatus
Plestiodon multivirgatus
Plestiodon obsoletus
Plestiodon septentrionalis
Plestiodon tetragrammus
Sceloporus cyanogenys
Sceloporus merriami
Urosaurus ornatus
Uta stansburiana

Arizona elegans
Cemophora coccinea
Coluber schotti
Coluber taeniatus
Coniophanes imperialis
Crotalus scutulatus
Crotalus viridis
Drymarchon couperi
Drymarchon melanurus
Drymobius margaritiferus
Ficimia streckeri
Heterodon gloydi (not a valid taxon, IMHO)
Heterodon kennerlyi
Hypsiglena torquata
Lampropeltis alterna
Leptodeira septentrionalis
Leptotyphlops humilis
Micrurus fulvius
Nerodia harteri
Nerodia sipedon
Pantherophis slowinskii
Pituophis ruthveni
Regina septemvittata
Salvadora grahamiae
Salvadora hexalepis
Sonora semiannulata
Storeria occipitomaculata
Tantilla atriceps
Tantilla cucullata
Tantilla hobartsmithi
Tantilla nigriceps
Thamnophis radix
Trimorphodon vilkinsonii

Apalone mutica
Chelonia mydas
Chrysemys dorsalis
Deirochelys reticularia
Graptemys caglei
Graptemys oculifera
Graptemys ouachitensis
Graptemys versa
Pseudemys gorzugi
Trachemys gaigeae

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Post by Shane_TX » August 28th, 2013, 5:26 pm

Ollotis valliceps - doesn't really occur in our region
Pseudacris triseriata - doesn't really occur in our region
So you're telling me that the two above have no representation in the database this year, there's redundancy in the list, or you're just being smart?

Pantherophis emoryi doesn't really occur either.

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Post by jlzachary1 » August 28th, 2013, 5:27 pm

i took care of spea bombifrons and heterodon nasicus. I thought i had already added the nasicus but i had not. I am going to effort a cemophora and crotphytus this weekend.

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Post by chrish » September 3rd, 2013, 6:28 am

Shane_TX wrote:
Ollotis valliceps - doesn't really occur in our region
Pseudacris triseriata - doesn't really occur in our region
So you're telling me that the two above have no representation in the database this year, there's redundancy in the list, or you're just being smart?

Pantherophis emoryi doesn't really occur either.

Shane
No, people are entering records using older taxonomy and therefore entering things under the wrong species name:
Our records of P. triseriata should be P. feriarum (or P. fouquettei, but that isn't a valid taxon in the database).
Ollotis valliceps is restricted to Mexico. The US species is Ollotis nebulifer.

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Post by chrish » September 3rd, 2013, 10:04 am

jlzachary1 wrote:i took care of spea bombifrons and heterodon nasicus. I thought i had already added the nasicus but i had not. I am going to effort a cemophora and crotphytus this weekend.
I added them to our list, although I'm not sure if they "count" without a voucher photo.

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Post by jlzachary1 » September 3rd, 2013, 10:44 am

i have the photo on the bombifrons i just haven't dug it up yet. I don't have pics of the dead hognoses because at that time i wasn't photo'ing DoRs.

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Post by chrish » September 4th, 2013, 5:39 am

They show up on the "report" so I guess they can count for our tally.

Only 57 to go to reach our goal. :lol:

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Post by chrish » September 4th, 2013, 6:04 am

Just to be competitive, I checked the other chapter's progress so far this year (I'm a little confused about the number of records and people, but the number of species should be correct):

Southeast = 166 species in 2289 records by 16 people
South Central = 143 species in 1541 records by 14 people (139 species, 1507 records by 13 people if we only count vouchered records)
California = 118 species in 1569 records by 15 people
Arizona = 91 species in 6914 records by 46 people
Northeast = 89 species in 6556 records by 38 people
Midwest = 85 species from 639 records by 14 people
Mexico = 58 species in 36 records by 2 people
Rocky Mountain = 54 species in 549 records by 8 people
Northwest = 31 species in 201 records by 6 people

It would be nice to have a "potential species list" for each chapter to see how they have done relative to the number of species they could get.

Talk about too much time on my hands! :crazyeyes:

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Post by jlzachary1 » September 6th, 2013, 3:46 pm

i have a question regarding the database. when i find an animal in its native habitat while out walking or whatever, what do you choose as the method? it's not really cover flipping, it's more in situ. What is the best choice?

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 143 and counting

Post by jeffro » September 7th, 2013, 1:31 pm

jlzachary1 wrote:i have a question regarding the database. when i find an animal in its native habitat while out walking or whatever, what do you choose as the method? it's not really cover flipping, it's more in situ. What is the best choice?
I use "visual encounter" for such situations.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 143 and counting

Post by jlzachary1 » September 7th, 2013, 2:17 pm

Thanks Jeff, that is what i will do too.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 143 and counting

Post by gretzkyrh4 » September 7th, 2013, 3:27 pm

ritt, jeffro, and I made a quick run east this morning and managed to add two more to the list:

Eurycea cirrigera & Graptemys gibbonsi (G.pearlensis)

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 145 and counting

Post by chrish » September 24th, 2013, 6:21 am

Added Sceloporus variabilis yesterday.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 146 and counting

Post by chrish » October 27th, 2013, 9:41 pm

Added Chelonia mydas this weekend.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 145 and counting

Post by chrish » November 18th, 2013, 12:45 pm

Had to reduce our number to 145 due to some of the records representing the same taxon (Pseudacris nigrita, triseriata and feriarum have all been used to represent P. fouquettei).

I can't do the same validation for the other chapters because I wouldn't know what the problem taxa are to be looking for, but just to compare our numbers of species so far:

Chapter 1 - Midwest - 95 species
Chapter 2 - California - 123 species
Chapter 3 - Northwest - 41 species
Chapter 4 - Southeast - 185 species
Chapter 5 - South Central - 145 species (validated!)
Chapter 6 - Northeast - 97 species
Chapter 8 - Rocky Mountain - 68 species
Chapter 9 - Arizona - 95 species

My next comparison will be to look at the percentages of known taxa (previously reported) that have been reported by members this year, if I can figure out how to do that?

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 145 and counting

Post by chrish » November 18th, 2013, 1:06 pm

BTW (is it bad to follow up your own posts, over and over?? :oops: )....

The reason this stuff matters is that in order for NAFHA and the database in its current form to become relevant, it has to contain a lot of data. And while having large numbers of individual records is important, our database becomes more useful to researchers if we have good representation of diversity and geographic distribution.

That last thing is something we could probably work on. If you look at the diversity map for our chapter (http://www.naherp.com/maps/diversity-large.png), you can see there are far too many counties in our area that have records of less than 12 species of herp and a lot of wide open areas with NO records.

Kudos to the folks working East Baton Rouge Parish. Nice to see some 60+ counties/parishes in our region of the map! Another shout-out to Connor and Saunders for getting Kendall County, TX into the "yellows" almost single-handedly.
We've done a good job over the last 2-3 years in contributing data, but we could do more.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 145 and counting

Post by gretzkyrh4 » November 19th, 2013, 10:18 am

One more for the list, care of Brennan.

http://www.naherp.com/viewrecord.php?r_id=167468

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Post by chrish » November 19th, 2013, 11:25 am

gretzkyrh4 wrote:One more for the list, care of Brennan.

http://www.naherp.com/viewrecord.php?r_id=167468
Wow, that's a great record. A new species for Louisiana and the SC Chapter area!

I wonder if we can get 150?

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Post by gretzkyrh4 » November 19th, 2013, 7:58 pm

One more from the sunday morning "random" trip.

http://www.naherp.com/viewrecord.php?r_id=167354

And while we are at it, I noticed this in the DB as well.

http://www.naherp.com/viewrecord.php?r_id=158561

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 146 and counting

Post by chrish » November 21st, 2013, 7:24 am

Oh-oh. Looks like I screwed this up again.

Several of the records I just added (like the Graptemys pseudogeographic and gibbonsi) were entered by people who weren't members of our chapter, so they don't officially "count". If were to count records by non-members, we are at 155.

So we are still at 146, I'm afraid. We can certainly get ourselves over 150.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 148 and counting

Post by John Williams » November 24th, 2013, 11:49 am

Hey Chris-

I just added 10 or so records to the database that will hopefully up the yearly species total.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 148 and counting

Post by dbh » November 26th, 2013, 8:09 am

John,

Those are some really nice/noteworthy records!
I am envious.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 148 and counting

Post by chrish » November 27th, 2013, 12:40 pm

John Williams wrote:I just added 10 or so records to the database that will hopefully up the yearly species total.
Thanks John. That got us over the 150 mark.

I didn't know there were still tortoises in Louisiana. Great record.

I need to go east and get some of those east Texas and eruptiive ranids (palutris and areolatus). I saw that the areolatus came from near Attwater PCNWR. The sad thing is that used to be my old herping ground back when I didn't care about frogs. :oops:

Some of the stuff we are missing is almost funny/sad. Crotaphytus collaris? Plethodon albagula? really?

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 153 and counting

Post by chrish » November 27th, 2013, 12:55 pm

Here's an update to our list of potential species to be added based on what we have put in before.
It may be too late in the season for some of these species, but others are still out. I have highlighted a few that I might be able to add if the weather and free time happen to cooperate.

Ambystoma annulatum
Ambystoma mavortium
Amphiuma means
Desmognathus auriculatus
Desmognathus brimleyorum
Eurycea latitans
Eurycea longicauda
Eurycea lucifuga
Eurycea neotenes
Eurycea troglodytes
Eurycea tynerensis
Hemidactylium scutatum
Plethodon albagula
Plethodon angusticlavius
Plethodon caddoensis
Plethodon cinereus
Plethodon fourchensis
Plethodon ouachitae
Plethodon sequoyah

Anaxyrus houstonensis
Anaxyrus quercicus
Hyla arenicolor
Rhinella marina
Smilisca baudinii
Spea multiplicata

Aspidoscelis exsanguis
Aspidoscelis laredoensis
Aspidoscelis marmorata
Aspidoscelis septemvittata
Aspidoscelis tesselata
Crotaphytus collaris - how did we miss this widespread western species?
Gambelia wislizenii
Gerrhonotus infernalis
Holbrookia approximans
Holbrookia lacerata
Holbrookia propinqua
Ophisaurus attenuatus
Plestiodon anthracinus
Plestiodon inexpectatus
Plestiodon multivirgatus
Plestiodon obsoletus
Plestiodon septentrionalis
Plestiodon tetragrammus - may still be flippable?
Sceloporus cyanogenys - if it gets warm down south
Sceloporus merriami
Urosaurus ornatus
Uta stansburiana

Cemophora coccinea
Coluber schotti
Coluber taeniatus
Coniophanes imperialis
Crotalus scutulatus
Drymarchon couperi
Drymarchon melanurus - coming into breeding season
Drymobius margaritiferus
Ficimia streckeri
Heterodon gloydi (not a valid taxon, IMHO)
Heterodon kennerlyi
Hypsiglena torquata
Lampropeltis alterna
Leptodeira septentrionalis
Leptotyphlops humilis
Micrurus fulvius
Nerodia harteri
Pituophis ruthveni
Regina septemvittata
Salvadora grahamiae!!! - How could we miss this species?? It is a trash species in southern Texas. Very "winter flippable".
Salvadora hexalepis
Sonora semiannulata
Storeria occipitomaculata
Tantilla atriceps
Tantilla cucullata
Tantilla hobartsmithi
Tantilla nigriceps
Thamnophis radix
Trimorphodon vilkinsonii

Apalone mutica
Chrysemys dorsalis
Deirochelys reticularia
Graptemys caglei
Graptemys oculifera
Graptemys ouachitensis
Graptemys versa - may still be possible
Pseudemys gorzugi
Trachemys gaigeae

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 153 and counting

Post by John Williams » November 28th, 2013, 6:24 am

I was surprised to find areolata on several roads in that area that I'd been on numerous times before. looks to be healthy populations in that area and other counties around there.

I have a couple versa records from La Grange and Columbus from this summer I'll add.

Go get our indigo and salvadora records!

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 153 and counting

Post by Brian Hubbs » November 29th, 2013, 9:16 am

Are you just counting species entered by your members, or species entered by anyone? I entered several Graptemys versa this year and some other stuff.

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Re: Our species list for the year so far - 153 and counting

Post by chrish » November 29th, 2013, 10:13 pm

Brian Hubbs wrote:Are you just counting species entered by your members, or species entered by anyone? I entered several Graptemys versa this year and some other stuff.
Only by our members. It was meant to encourage our chapter members to get out and get data...and it has worked.

We have 163 species if you count those contributed by "visitors" to our chapter boundaries.

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