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Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Carl Brune » January 5th, 2014, 6:16 pm

Here are some reptiles and amphibians that I observed in southeastern Ohio in 2013, in chronological order. There are a few animals from neighboring states, which are also included.

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On January 12, we had some unseasonably warm weather. A friend and I took advantage and went for a hike. With all of the moss, ferns, and hemlock, you almost didn't notice that it was the middle of winter...

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One of two Northern Spring Salamander (Gyrinophilus porphyriticus porphyriticus) larvae seen on the hike.

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On another winter hike in February I visited this fountain, which is tapped into a natural spring and spews water year around. It seems that Northern Dusky Salamanders (Desmognathus fuscus) can always be found here, regardless of the time of year. I hadn't been here in around 8 years, but it is nice to see they are still here.

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The Wood Frogs (Rana sylvatica) were out in force on March 9. Looking at the full-resolution version of this photo, I was able to count 16 of them.

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This pool is perched on a rather steep hillside. It had a number of calling Wood Frogs in it, which is how I found it. In addition, I found a Marbled Salamander (Ambystoma opacum) larva here.

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Two of the Wood Frogs and some of their egg masses.

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A closer look. Proud papa?

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The other one had an interesting spotted pattern.

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A floodplain pool with calling Wood Frogs on March 10.

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A pair of them.

On March 11, we had some warm rains that got the amphibians moving. All of these photos are in situ.
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Spotted Salamander (Ambystoma maculatum).

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Eastern Newt (Notophthalmus viridescens).

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Jefferson Salamander (Ambystoma jeffersonianum).

Northern Leopard Frogs (Rana pipiens) are not common in southeast Ohio, but the place where I was happens to have a healthy population of them. I photographed several of them, as they have several color variations.
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Northern Leopard Frog.

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Northern Leopard Frog.

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Northern Leopard Frog.

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Northern Leopard Frog.

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Northern Leopard Frog.

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Pickerel Frog (Rana palustris).

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Spring Peeper (Pseudacris crucifer).

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A Wood Frog (Rana sylvatica) and a Northern Leopard Frog (Rana pipiens) that happened to be found together.

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Gray Treefrog.

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Wood Frog (Rana sylvatica).

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Marbled Salamander (Ambystoma opacum). That was it for the night.

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One day in mid March, I met my friend Brian down in Kentucky. The weather had turned a little colder. This pool of water was created when a tree fell over and the roots pulled up out of the ground. As you can see, there is a thin sheet of ice. Wood Frog eggs had been deposited a few days earlier, when the weather was warmer.

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One of two Kentucky Spring Salamander (Gyrinophilus porphyriticus duryi) larvae we found.

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A closer look.

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A couple of Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber) larvae.

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An adult Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber).

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Mud Salamander (Pseudotriton montanus) larva.

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A closer look.

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A hatchling Mud Salamander (Pseudotriton montanus) larva.

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Two hatchling Mud Salamander (Pseudotriton montanus) larvae.

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Mud Salamander (Pseudotriton montanus) larvae.

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A Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber) larva (top) and a Mud Salamander (Pseudotriton montanus) larva (bottom). I found both species in one scoop with the dipnet at one spot, the first time I have ever done that. It was great catching up with Brian.

Back in Ohio.
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A Green Salamander (Aneides aeneus), as spotted in a crack in a rock on March 23.

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A Northern Dusky Salamander (Desmognathus fuscus) larva.

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A Northern Dusky Salamander (Desmognathus fuscus, on left) and a Southern Two-lined (Eurycea cirrigera, on right) as revealed when the rock in the background was flipped over. Observed on Easter Sunday, March 31. This activity kind of reminds me of hunting for Easter eggs.

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A mossy seepage-fed area near where the above photo was taken.

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A Four-toed Salamander (Hemidactylium scutatum) found with eggs in the moss shown in the previous photo.

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A spring-fed marsh that is separated from the creek in a nearby drainage. Another Four-toed Salamander sitting on eggs was found here.

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Some mine drainage oozing into the creek. Kind of pretty, but it's not supposed to be that way. There was little life in the creek downstream from here. However, the spring-fed marsh in the previous photo is located about 20 yards downstream from here -- I think the important point is that the marsh receives it water from a separate (clean) spring.

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A little spring a few hundred yards upstream from the previous photo.

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This Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber) was found in the leaf litter by the spring.

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A closer look.

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The head of a ravine in early April.

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I came across a pool of orange goo while hiking (opposite side of creek, right of center). This is in the Hocking Hills, a region that has experienced little (if any) coal mining.

My friend Jim Grow explained to me once that "orange goo" can result from natural seepages due to the presence of iron. He went on to say that such places are often good places to check for salamanders, because some species lay their eggs in seepages (Pseudotriton and Longtailed) and several others probably appreciate the regulated water temperature. Then, right on cue, we came across an orange spot and Jim dipnetted a Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber) larva out of it.

Just for the record, I found three Red Salamander larvae in the "orange goo" spot shown above. The moral of the story is that orange discharge is not always a symptom of evil mine drainage.

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One of the Red Salamander larvae from the pool shown in the previous photo.

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A large Mottled Sculpin (Cottus bairdi), about 4.5" TL.

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Campfires are mesmerizing. Just a random photo from a Boy Scout campout.

I did some roadcruising in the rain on the night of April 16:
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American Toad (Bufo americanus).

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Long-tailed Salamander (Eurycea longicauda).

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Southern Two-lined Salamander (Eurycea cirrigera).

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Bullfrog (Rana catesbeiana).

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Green Frog (Rana clamitans).

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Spring Peeper (Pseudacris crucifer).

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At one point I saw what looked like a red hotdog in the road...

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It turned out to be a Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber). A good way to end a night of road cruising.

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A large field of wildflowers that I saw in mid April. Wintercress, I believe. Some Redbuds in the background. Welcome signs of spring.

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A Five-lined Skink (Eumeces fasciatus) that I found under a rock.

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A Ring-necked Snake (Diadophis punctatus), as found under cover.

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A Mountain Chorus Frog (Pseudacris brachyphona). Although I often hear these in the spring, tracking them down for photos is often difficult.

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Another Mountain Chorus Frog.

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Another pose.

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I spotted a discarded sheet of carpet while driving down a dirt road in mid April. I backed up, got out and looked under it, and there were three Worm Snakes (Carphophis amoenus) and a baby Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum). I took a quick photo of the four snakes, in hand. As you can see, the Milksnake latched on to one of the worm snakes. Somewhat amusing. Just a case of the Milksnake being scared and biting whatever it could. It released the Milksnake shortly thereafter, no harm done. I then released them back under the carpet.

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Another look at the baby Milksnake.

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Northern Cricket Frog (Acris crepitans).

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Another Northern Cricket Frog.

I tried road cruising in the rain on the night of April 28.
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Right off the bat, I found this, a Smallmouth Salamander (Ambystoma texanum). The first example of this species that I have every seen in the wild. It was found near the glacial boundary in Hocking County. There is a historic record for them from Athens County, Ohio, but the area where it was found has seen major developments since then, including the construction of Athens High School. I have not had any luck finding them in my home county.

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I wound up seeing several more Smallmouth Salamanders. This was an attractive one.

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Another Smallmouth Salamander.

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Grey Treefrog.

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Spotted Salamander (Ambystoma maculatum).

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Wood Frog (Rana sylvatica).

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Northern Leopard Frogs (Rana pipiens).

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Western Chorus Frogs (Pseudacris triseriata). This one had a rather dark coloration on its head.

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Green Frog (Rana clamitans).

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A young Smooth Earth Snake (Virginia valeriae) that a friend and I found in West Virginia.

Roxanne and I did a little road cruising in the rain on the night of May 6. Here's some of the things we saw:
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Smallmouth Salamander (Ambystoma texanum).

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A closer look.

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Fowler's Toad (Bufo fowleri).

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Long-tailed Salamander (Eurycea longicauda). Roxanne got a good laugh when I bellied up to the wet asphalt to take this photo. I think it was worth it.

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It turned out that in addition to laughing at me she snapped a photo...

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Our pool on May 19. These are American Toad (Bufo americanus) tadpoles.

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Another photo from our pool on May 19. The frog is a Green Frog (Rana clamitans), the larger tadpoles are Wood Frogs (Rana sylvatica), and the smaller ones are American Toads. The toad tadpoles show no fear of the frog, and even seem to graze on its skin. The Wood Frog tadpoles, on the other hand, make a conscious effort to avoid to avoid the frog -- no doubt because the frog will eat them. It turns out that toad tadpoles are toxic to most predators. I watched for about 10 minutes, and the Wood Frog tadpoles never once got close to the frog.

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A Cope's Gray Treefrog (Hyla chrysoscelis) and an American Toad (Bufo americanus) observed in our pool on June 6. I don't think this is going to work... I did think it was interesting that American Toads were calling this late in the season. Note the American Toad tadpole by the rear foot of the adult toad.

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Cope's Gray Treefrogs (Hyla chrysoscelis). It kind of looks like they are floating in outer space.

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A metamorph Wood Frog (Rana sylvatica) observed at our pool on June 6.

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The Scottown covered bridge in Lawrence County, Ohio. June 8, 2013. The sign says it was built in 1874.

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A gravid Smooth Earth Snake (Virginia valeriae).

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This sign gets no respect.

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Just across the dirt road from the sign, there was a pile of dumped carpets. Rummaging through the carpets revealed this Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum).

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A random little (illegal) dump I came across. It included carpets, a wading pool, and somebody's old record collection...

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A Ring-necked Snake (Diadophis punctatus) that I found in the trash. It was the only snake I found there. I felt like it should have produced more than just one snake...

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The site also yielded this artifact that dates from late in the vinyl 45 epoch.

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Another Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum), found under the sheet of tin you can see just above my wrist.

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A Ring-necked Snake (Diadophis punctatus), as found under cover.

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A Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix), as found under a board.

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A young Dekay's Snake (Storeria dekayi), as found under cover.

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A Dekay's Snake (Storeria dekayi), as found under a board.

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A Long-tailed Salamander (Eurycea longicauda), as found under a log.

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This spring flows out of a hillside, which was "disturbed" by mining activities in the distant past. It is teeming with salamander larvae. Southern Twolined, Longtailed, and Red Salamander larvae were found.

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Here are some of the larvae I saw.

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A closer look at three of them. The largest one is a Red Salamander (Pseudotriton ruber), the medium-sized one is a Southern Two-lined Salamander (Eurycea cirrigera), and the smallest is a Long-tailed Salamander (Eurycea longicauda).

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An Eastern Box Turtle (Terrapene carolina), as found on a dirt road.

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A classic old barn I saw in mid June. According to wikipedia, there were 20,000 Mail Pouch Tobacco barns in their heyday, the 1960s...

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Some reptile eggs I found in a carpet on June 15. I actually found another set of eggs, just like this one, later in the day as well. I believe they are Black Racer (Coluber constrictor) eggs. I put them back as I found them.

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A closer look at the eggs. I returned to this spot again on September 14. The carpet was seriously disturbed since my last visit (moved about 20 feet and partially buried). This was apparently done a by a road grader doing some work on the roadside ditch. There was no sign of any egg remains. I also checked the other set of eggs on September 14 -- these appeared to have all hatched successfully (no photos). I found a third set that had hatched on September 14 as well -- a photo is shown below in its chronological position.

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On June 16, Roxanne and I spent several hours hiking. First we stopped for lunch, at the Dairy Corner in Wellston, Ohio.

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The menu.

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I passed on dessert...

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We checked out the Byer covered bridge in Jackson County, Ohio.

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A Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum), as found under a rock slab.

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Me, checking under rock slabs on a hillside.

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Some nice habitat we checked out.

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Roxanne was also very interested in the plants...

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A baby Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix), almost as I found it under a rock slab. It's giving me the stink eye. It also appeared to be digesting a meal. Note the yellow tail, characteristic of young Copperheads. I do not see the young ones very often.

The following evening, Roxanne and I went out for a bit after dinner.
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Roxanne with a Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula nigra) that was found under some rubbish in this pipeline cut.

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A closer look at the king. It was in pre-shed condition.

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This Butterfly Weed was also seen nearby in the pipeline cut. I think Roxanne was more excited about this than the kingsnake...

About 200 yards away, still on the ridgetop, there is a small clearing where a number of old carpets have been dumped. Pulling away the last carpet revealed this:
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Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum).

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Another photo, after I lifted the board. The snake had moved a little bit.

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An important part of this game is putting the carpet pile back together after you have searched through it. I think Roxanne found this rather amusing, as I tend to pretty systematic about this.

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Silly Cope's Gray Treefrogs (Hyla chrysoscelis) "made babies" in a random bucket in our yard. Life Finds a Way. June 20.

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American Toadlets (Bufo americanus) emerging from our pool on June 20. They huddle together to conserve moisture.

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A Northern Cricket Frog (Acris crepitans) I found in the shallows of a lake. Shown as found.

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While looking for Cricket Frogs, I found this young Northern Water Snake (Nerodia sipedon). I suspect it was looking for Cricket Frogs as well...

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A pair of Copperheads (Agkistrodon contortrix), as found under a board.

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The "supermoon" was out on the evening of June 22. The snakes, not so much...

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The amphibians were evicted from our pool on June 23. The Wood Frogs and American Toads had already transformed. The Cope's Gray Treefrog tadpoles were transferred to other bodies of water.

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Many American Toadlets (Bufo americanus) were found under and in the folds of the tarp as we removed it from the pool. Roxanne moved them to her various gardens.

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This railroad cuts through the southern Ohio hill country. I lifted the board in the foreground to reveal the snake in the following photos.

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A beautiful Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix), probably a gravid female.

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From the side.

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A closer look. The snake never budged. I returned the board to its original position and moved on.

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A Rough Green Snake (Opheodrys aestivus) I found on a fairly busy road. Shown as found. When I first came up on it, there was a mailman stopped at the mailboxes on the right and somebody pulling out of the driveway on the left. I just barely spotted the snake as I negotiated the mini traffic jam. The other drivers must have thought I was nuts when I immediately did a U-turn to go back to the snake...

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Looking back the other way.

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Starting to crawl off the road.

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A Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula nigra) found under cover on a rainy day.

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The Gallipolis Lock and Dam on the Ohio River on July 7. Some people (on the other side of the river?) call it the Robert C. Byrd Lock and Dam. In any case, it is an impressive piece of engineering. And there is some serious throughput, due to all the rain we've been having (enough already).

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A Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum), as found in some carpet.

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A gravid Smooth Earth Snake (Virginia valeriae) found under a piece of fabric on a wet day. Shown as found.

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This Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum) didn't want to stick around for photos.

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A Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix) and a Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum), as found under a board.

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A closer look at the Milksnake.

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A Smooth Earth Snake (Virginia valeriae) posed on the carpet it was found under. It's a little hard to tell from the photo, but the snake had an interesting brick red cast to its color.

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A Great Horned Owl, as found on a road at night.

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A young Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix) found on a road at night.

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A Black Racer (Coluber constrictor), in pre-shed condition.

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A lake covered with blooming lotuses (= lotsa lotus?). Very beautiful/impressive.

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The Vesuvius Iron Furnace. It stopped production in 1906.

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This really makes you think.

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A "high yellow" Box Turtle (Terrapene carolina), as found on a gravel road. If I could have given it a bath, I think it would have been stunning. Some interesting shell damage as well.

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Some young wild turkeys I saw in late July. The adult in the group (mom?) ran off the road, and the rest didn't really seem to know what to do as I drove up...

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A large Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula nigra). This was found at the "Psychedelic Furs" site described above.

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This Dekay's Snake (Storeria dekayi) stood out a little bit to me because it is tending toward being anerythristic -- lacking in red/orange/yellow pigment.

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A Worm Snakes (Carphophis amoenus), as found under cover.

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Some nice open wetland habitat. This type of habitat is rather limited in southeast Ohio.

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A Snapping Turtle (Chelydra serpentina), observed in the above wetland.

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Lady's room. Men's was nowhere to be found... For some reason outhouses are often the only thing still standing at abandoned homesteads.

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A Black Ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta), as found on a road near our house. This was with my brother Chris and his boys. This was also the first live Black Ratsnake that I saw in 2013 -- kind of unusual that it took until August 1 to see one.

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Bambi, relaxing in our yard in early August.

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A Grey Treefrog that Roxanne found in our yard one day.

In late August I spent a day in the field in Michigan, with my friend Jason. A couple of the critters we saw are shown below. Image
A Northern water snake (Nerodia sipedon), in the shallows of a small lake.

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Northern Leopard Frog (Rana pipiens).

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An Ambystoma that we found. I'm not sure if it is laterale or a hybrid.

Back in Ohio now.
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A Black Ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta), as found under carpet.

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Another look. The snake has now moved a little bit.

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A hatchling Black Racer from late August.

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A Wood Nymph (Eudryas) caterpillar found in some grape vines in our backyard. Perhaps the Beautiful Wood Nymph (E. grata).

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A Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula nigra), almost as found under a sheet of tin -- it curled its tail a little bit.

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A Black Racer (Coluber constrictor), as found under some carpet.

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Always keep your eyes out for well-camouflaged surprises when searching through tacky orange and beige 1970s era carpet...

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A closer look at the Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix). Both photos show the snake as first uncovered, but not otherwise disturbed.

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Early September is the season for curing tobacco in the barn. In Gallia Co, Ohio.

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A closer look at the tobacco.

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An attractive Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum) that I found under a random rock along a roadside. I wish I would have taken the time to get a better photo of it.

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A Rough Green Snake (Opheodrys aestivus), as spotted on a quiet dirt road.

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The Cox Bridge in Vinton County, Ohio. It's a pretty short one, built in 1884. In 1992 it was moved to the side to make room for a modern (less interesting) bridge. The guard rail in the lower left is part of the new bridge.

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The sign in front of the Cox Bridge. Hard to believe there were over 60 of these in just this county.

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A hatchling Milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum) from early September.

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Another Milksnake, found in the shingle pile in the background.

The next three Copperheads (Agkistrodon contortrix) were found by roadcruising one evening in early September.
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A pinkish one.

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This one was very large, probably a male.

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A "grey phase" example.

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A hatchling Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula nigra) that I found in mid September. It was 9-3/4" long, pretty much a #2 pencil.

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Some successfully hatched Black Racer eggs (I believe) that I found under a board on September 14. Every egg had a slit in the shell and was empty...

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A Smooth Earth Snake (Virginia valeriae), as found under cover. I assume that its grey-ish coloration is due to it being in pre-shed condition.

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A Walking Stick insect that I found. I do not see these very often.

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A Marbled Salamander (Ambystoma opacum). These start to show up at the end of summer.

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Ohio has rather limited Civil War history. I did find this interesting.

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A Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula nigra), as found under a sheet of tin.

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A closer look. This was early in the morning. You can see the fine droplets of condensation on the snake. Where the snake was touching the tin, you can see larger muddy areas of water.

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This little farm house was really into the Halloween spirit. This was near Wilgus (Lawrence Co) Ohio, about as "middle of nowhere" as you can get in this part of the country.

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A little Red-bellied Snake (Storeria occipitomaculata) that I found this fall. I had not seen one in southeast Ohio since 2009. It's shown as found, after I lifted a tarp covering a pile of shingles. I also found another when I searched through the rest of the tarp.

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Just in case you were wondering why it is called a Red-bellied Snake...

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A closer look at its head.

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The other one.

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A side-by-side comparison of the two.

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Banded Tiger Moth (Apantesis vittata) that I spotted on the ground while photographing the Red-bellied Snakes. It never budged. Apparently the larvae of this species are the "Wooly Bear" caterpillars which are commonly seen around here.

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On the evening of December 21, we had some warm (65F) rains. I saw this Jefferson Salamander (Ambystoma jeffersonianum) on the road just down the hill from our house.

So that was 2013. One odd thing is that I saw zero live garter snakes (Thamnophis) this year in Ohio. I did see two DORs.

What will 2014 bring?

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Craig » January 5th, 2014, 6:54 pm

As always, some great photos from Carl. Being a Buckeye myself, I've been to a few these spots as well but my photo skills are sorely lacking.

Craig

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Mark Brown » January 6th, 2014, 2:11 am

Fantastic post, Carl. As always, your photos and descriptions bring back many fond memories, and I greatly appreciate that.

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by azatrox » January 6th, 2014, 6:20 am

Great stuff Carl.

Who knew Ohio could be so imteresting?

-Kris

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Bryan Hamilton » January 6th, 2014, 5:31 pm

Great post. Makes me miss Ohio.

And reminds me of cutting tobacco for .10 a stick in 1994. 6 plants per stick. A really good cutter could cut 1,000 sticks a day. I wonder what it pays now?

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Jared Cain » January 7th, 2014, 9:16 am

Very nice photos and beautiful animals!! I hope 2014 brings you wehrlei ;)

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Trey » January 7th, 2014, 10:25 am

Great post Carl! Love the kings, maybe you can help me get one this year. ;)

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Zach_Lim » January 7th, 2014, 1:32 pm

Stunning post, Carl.
Everything I enjoy was in this thread- snakes, artificial cover shots, and historical structures.

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Carl Brune » January 7th, 2014, 8:57 pm

Thanks for the comments. Every time I do a post like this it kind of feels like same old same old... But obviously I haven't tired of getting out into the field and am certainly not bored with it.

P. wehrlei is high on my list, will probably head to WV for that.

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Andy Avram » January 8th, 2014, 3:43 pm

Carl Brune wrote:Thanks for the comments. Every time I do a post like this it kind of feels like same old same old... But obviously I haven't tired of getting out into the field and am certainly not bored with it.

P. wehrlei is high on my list, will probably head to WV for that.
I enjoy these posts and makes me realize I haven't made it to s. Ohio in awhile. Still would like to see 2 turtle species from down that way.

I got Wehrle's in PA this past year. Two juveniles. Next year I am going back for Coal Skinks.

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by qaz » January 8th, 2014, 4:13 pm

Such diversity, even within a single species. I think the different leopard frogs and large number of uniquely patterned milk snakes demonstrates this perfectly. Looks like you had a great season!

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Jared Cain » January 8th, 2014, 4:58 pm

Carl Brune wrote:Thanks for the comments. Every time I do a post like this it kind of feels like same old same old... But obviously I haven't tired of getting out into the field and am certainly not bored with it.

P. wehrlei is high on my list, will probably head to WV for that.

I found them with some regularity in the Spring time of 2013. They disappeared once summer set in and then I moved, again. Though I have read they breed in the fall I never did find any in the fall of 2012. I found 2 areas in Wetzel and one in Tyler that had populations. I visit the Tyler County spot often since I go there for other reasons and did so in the fall of 2012. I also found most them on the sunnier hillsides rather than the shady parts. Not saying they arent there but I never did see any in the hills that are along the Ohio River. They were all found at least 10 or so miles into the counties from the river. Maybe this will help a little :D

Good luck and again, awesome post!

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by tspuckler » January 13th, 2014, 5:21 pm

Great Stuff Carl,

I especially like the photo and story about the Dusky Salamander and the fountain.
That first Copperhead was really nice looking.
Also, that potentially anerythristic DeKay's Snake - I've never seen one like that.
And that seems like a heck of a lot of Black Kings for the Buckeye State.

Looks like you had a really good year!

Tim

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Post by salamanderhunter » January 13th, 2014, 5:44 pm

Great post! Love the habitat pics! Thanks!

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Post by jason folt » January 14th, 2014, 11:20 am

Great series. I love your backyard vernal pool! Wish we could get out in the field in Ohio this year. Maybe a turtle kayak trip?

Tim - Black kings are very easy to find in certain southern Ohio counties, quite a few of them actually, and can be one of the more common snakes encountered each season.

Jason

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Post by Trey » January 14th, 2014, 2:52 pm

jason folt wrote:Great series. I love your backyard vernal pool! Wish we could get out in the field in Ohio this year. Maybe a turtle kayak trip?

Tim - Black kings are very easy to find in certain southern Ohio counties, quite a few of them actually, and can be one of the more common snakes encountered each season.

Jason

Guess Ive been looking in the wrong places in said counties ;)

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Post by Carl Brune » January 14th, 2014, 8:38 pm

It was good year. Ever year plays out differently, due to when I have time to get out, the weather, random luck, etc...

Jason- Some kind of river trip sounds good to me.

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Post by BillMcGighan » January 15th, 2014, 10:45 am

World class post, Carl; pics, script, habitat, human; has it all.


I really enjoyed the variance of the northern Leopard Frogs. We talk often here in the south about the diversity of Southern LFs, but you showed the Northerns are just as interesting.


I chuckled at the "No Dumping" sign, since this has become a bellwether to many herpers that says "look here!"

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Post by jason folt » January 15th, 2014, 5:55 pm

Trey - Sorry for your luck. It took me a couple seasons to find my first as well. Admittedly when I was finding a bunch of kings each year I had discovered and cultivated tin and board sites all over the place, and lived very close to their range so I could keep them up. It is much harder if you don't live close and spend a lot of time there. The amount of days I was logging in king country back then is pretty amazing. Last I checked (a few years back) all of the old sites had long been cleaned up. I am sure there are new barns in various states of disrepair but I don't get down there now. It was all about having access to stuff to flip.

That being said, I used to see tons of DORs and few AORs. Usually if you log a couple days in the spring and summer they turn up in one way or another?

Jason

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by J-Miz » January 15th, 2014, 6:16 pm

Cool stuff. Love all those southern OH species I can't get up here in Cuyahoga.

And did I read that correctly...no live garters for the entire year??

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Post by Carl Brune » January 16th, 2014, 4:51 am

J-Miz wrote:And did I read that correctly...no live garters for the entire year??
Yes you did...

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Jason Hull » January 16th, 2014, 5:56 am

Nice post Carl! I really enjoyed the habitat shots. Beautiful animals also!

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Post by justinm » January 16th, 2014, 12:54 pm

I've not bored with your finds not at all. Some of the snakes you've seen would have me very excited. The dirty box turtle would have been a real looker for sure. You kick ass man, keep posting.

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Post by Trey » January 16th, 2014, 4:02 pm

jason folt wrote:Trey - Sorry for your luck. It took me a couple seasons to find my first as well. Admittedly when I was finding a bunch of kings each year I had discovered and cultivated tin and board sites all over the place, and lived very close to their range so I could keep them up. It is much harder if you don't live close and spend a lot of time there. The amount of days I was logging in king country back then is pretty amazing. Last I checked (a few years back) all of the old sites had long been cleaned up. I am sure there are new barns in various states of disrepair but I don't get down there now. It was all about having access to stuff to flip.

That being said, I used to see tons of DORs and few AORs. Usually if you log a couple days in the spring and summer they turn up in one way or another?

Jason
Eh Ill get one this year. Its a long trip from where I am at, about 4 hours. But I found a few good places to flip, and Im sure Ill find more this year. Theres a couple Southern ohio species I still have to check off! Damn ohio rough greens;)

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Post by Carl Brune » January 16th, 2014, 8:42 pm

Trey- Luck / timing really does matter. How did I manage to see zero live garters in a year? Here's another one. There is a little site I typically check 2-3 times every season. This year I checked it 3 times, and each time I found a different black king. However, I had not seen ANY snakes there since 2007. I did have good luck there in 2006-7 time frame, finds included kings, a black rat, and hog (always a good find). Go figure. The only way to average out this sort of nonsense is get out in the field as much as you can...

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by Roki » January 17th, 2014, 10:05 am

Nice post. Never really put much thought into Ohio. Seems like you found some great spots.
Roki

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by MichaelCravens » January 18th, 2014, 8:16 pm

Wow, that was a hell of a post. Well done!

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by ahockenberry » January 23rd, 2014, 10:14 am

Awesome post, awesome content, awesome everything!!
Great photos - lots of Milk Snakes and Copperheads
Great work on the salamanders - lots of variety
Love the Dairy Bar - !
A+

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by hunterwayward » January 26th, 2014, 2:59 am

I thoroughly enjoyed this post. Thanks for sharing! :mrgreen:

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Re: Southeast Ohio, 2013

Post by walk-about » February 1st, 2014, 7:29 pm

Great post Carl - the Anuran shots were my favorite by far. Habitat shots of Ohio are really nice. Looking forward to 2014!

Rock ON!

Dave

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