Pattern variant C. oreganus

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Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Sam Sweet » July 11th, 2014, 8:25 pm

This fella turned up in Humboldt County near Garberville. I don't recall having seen a snake with a longitudinal fade-in pattern transition like this before.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by monklet » July 11th, 2014, 8:49 pm

Oreganus seems so full of surprises, but that takes the cake IMHO! :) :beer: :beer: :beer:

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Dr. Dark » July 12th, 2014, 3:41 am

WOW!!! Gorgeous!!!

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Post by Will Wells » July 12th, 2014, 6:13 am

That is awesome!

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by tspuckler » July 12th, 2014, 6:31 am

That's quite attractive!

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Ribbit » July 12th, 2014, 7:20 am

That is one cool-looking lizard! And the snake that's presumably in there for company is nice too.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Richard F. Hoyer » July 12th, 2014, 9:13 am

Dr. Sweet:
Over the years, I have come across a fair number of C. oreganus with a variety of basic ground colors including most common shades of brown, reddish rust, gray, green, and black along with variation in blotching patterns.

I believe Brad Alexander of Kernville use to maintain an albino of the species as well which I observed. But nothing I have viewed comes close to the basic bluish / black ground coloration of the specimen in your photograph.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by luv_the_smellof_musk » July 12th, 2014, 10:58 am

Very cool, hope you were able to keep it without pickling it. Would make a great display snake. Wonder if there are more like that nearby?

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Kent VanSooy » July 12th, 2014, 1:05 pm

That critter's just plain old bitchin' !

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by tdimler » July 12th, 2014, 1:07 pm

One of the neatest looking snakes in memory!!!!

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by John Martin » July 13th, 2014, 3:48 pm

Wow, that is a stunning animal! :shock: *A couple of more generations and perhaps you'd have a patternless? :)

* Not that I know a lot about genetics...

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Sam Sweet » July 13th, 2014, 9:59 pm

I am told that the snake was released.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Aaron » July 20th, 2014, 7:42 pm

That's a cool-looking rattlesnake. I've seen ones from Monterey and San Luis Obispo counties where some of the dorsal blotches fuse to form a broken stripe but I never seen one like that Humbolt specimen before.

Richard, the albino Brad had was a Mojave Rattlesnake.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Aaron » July 20th, 2014, 7:45 pm

After a second look at that snake I think it might be an axanthic or anerythristic specimen. I can't detect any yellow whatsoever.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Richard F. Hoyer » July 20th, 2014, 9:40 pm

Hi Aaron:
How are things going these days down your way?

Brad Alexander probably told me at the time that it was a Mojave Rattlesnake but that was some time ago. And speaking of albino snakes, a few years back, someone on this forum posted a photograph of an albino Common Sharp-tailed Snake.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by VICtort » July 21st, 2014, 4:59 am

Over the last 30 years I have seen a dozen C. oreganus from that area and I would describe them "Typical", with colors/patterns as Richard Hoyer described. That specimen is very different than others in that area in my experience. As others observed, a handsome animal indeed.

Thanks for posting this unusual and striking animal.

Vic ( formerly stationed at Richardson's Grove State Park )

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by AndyO'Connor » July 21st, 2014, 4:34 pm

I've seen a couple similar to that up here in Washington, one that could be considered a twin of that snake, and one with a similar pattern fade, but instead of the dark blueish/greenish tint, it was lemon yellow. I can't find the pics of the twin, but here's the lemondrop although with the lighting, the pattern showed up more than to the naked eye when first found..

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Kelly Mc » July 21st, 2014, 11:15 pm

Kent VanSooy wrote:That critter's just plain old bitchin' !

:thumb: heehee!!! Yeah

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by dery » July 21st, 2014, 11:43 pm

Kelly Mc wrote:
Kent VanSooy wrote:That critter's just plain old bitchin' !

:thumb: heehee!!! Yeah
O'Connor's is as well.

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Kelly Mc » July 22nd, 2014, 12:04 am

Yep :thumb:

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Lucas Basulto » July 22nd, 2014, 3:16 pm

Now thats a beautiful buzzworm!!!! Humboldt County FTW!!!!!!! Go Jacks. :thumb:

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Rich in Reptiles » July 22nd, 2014, 4:11 pm

Aaron wrote:After a second look at that snake I think it might be an axanthic or anerythristic specimen. I can't detect any yellow whatsoever.
My first thought as well. I wonder if it's just the white balance that makes it appear that way?? Sam, did it appear axanthic/anery in person?

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Re: Pattern variant C. oreganus

Post by Sam Sweet » July 23rd, 2014, 5:48 am

Only the photo came to me, I did not see the snake. While there is certainly some influence of the translucent white tub it's in, the fence lizard is a pretty good indicator of how far the white balance is skewed. Based on that I'd say that the snake would still get your attention on sight.

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