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Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 7:35 am
by tspuckler
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 10:03 am
by Richard F. Hoyer
tspuckler:
Am I correct in assuming all snake photos are of the Common Garter Snake, Thamnophis sirtalis?
It is my understanding that this type of color polymorphism (if that is the correct terminology) occurs in a good number of species of snakes. For instance, here in western Oregon, a similar situation occurs with the Northwestern Garter Snake, Thamnophis ordinoides. Where one finds an aggregation of several to many specimens, few if any snakes are identical in basic ground color, striping, and blotching. It is as if you have come across a number of different species all together.
Further south along the coast of SW Oregon to central Calif., I believe a similar scenario occurs with the Wandering Garter Snake, Thamnophis elegans. Perhaps Dr. Sam Sweet would chime in with a more professional assessment. (See his post on a pattern variant in C. oreganus.)
Richard F. Hoyer (Corvallis, Oregon)
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 10:12 am
by tspuckler
Richard,
Yes, all the same subspecies of Common Garter Snake. I've found Coast Garter Snakes to be variable as well, but not within a specific spot, where there usually tends to be one or two "looks." And I agree that it occurs in a good number of snakes - yet it's still fun to document.
Tim
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 10:57 am
by John Williams
That is one of the best pictures ever posted on this site. Fantastic.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 12:01 pm
by luv_the_smellof_musk
Very cool. So many beautiful forms of garters with reds and blues being my favorites. If they weren't native to here and common, far more people would be obsessed with them lol
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 1:47 pm
by Bostaff of Asclepius
My oh my, that photo is the stuff of dreams
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 6:38 pm
by Tim Borski
I dig the variations of Eastern Garters! Thanks for giving us a look.
Tim
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 12th, 2014, 8:52 pm
by Don Becker
Some of those Garter Snakes look like Milk Snakes.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 13th, 2014, 8:14 am
by TravisK
That last picture looks like the herper equivalent of a jar full of jelly beans where we win something by guessing the correct number of snakes
I think I might just pass out if I ever flip some AC and see that many snakes all at once. Very nice
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 13th, 2014, 10:00 am
by Zach_Lim
I really got to head out your way, Tim...
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 15th, 2014, 10:36 am
by mikem
TravisK wrote:That last picture looks like the herper equivalent of a jar full of jelly beans where we win something by guessing the correct number of snakes
I think I might just pass out if I ever flip some AC and see that many snakes all at once. Very nice
Haha, I'd probably have the same reaction! Love the garters! Thanks for sharing them with us
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 15th, 2014, 11:23 am
by ZantiMissKnit
tspuckler wrote:Richard,
Yes, all the same subspecies of Common Garter Snake. I've found Coast Garter Snakes to be variable as well, but not within a specific spot, where there usually tends to be one or two "looks." And I agree that it occurs in a good number of snakes - yet it's still fun to document.
Tim
I remember when this picture was going around Facebook, and it is no less spectacular now than it was then.
We have some amazing variations in Massachusetts as well:
DSCN1364 by
ZantiMissKnit, on Flickr
DSCN5628 by
ZantiMissKnit, on Flickr
DSC_0033 by
ZantiMissKnit, on Flickr
DSCN8515 by
ZantiMissKnit, on Flickr
Disappearing dorsal stripe by
ZantiMissKnit, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 15th, 2014, 7:23 pm
by pjfishpa
Very cool post. I notice a wide variety in them over here as well. Hognose too. Great pics, thanks for putting this post together.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 18th, 2014, 10:43 am
by David O
Until I get access back to my ftp server, a link to my blog will have to do:
Garters from NW Ohio.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 18th, 2014, 11:26 am
by ZantiMissKnit
Here is one of the very red garters from Oneida County, New York.
DSCN2213 by
ZantiMissKnit, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 23rd, 2014, 10:00 am
by Knightkrawler5
A Wisconsin Eastern
Eastern Garter Snake by
beefstu6586, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 23rd, 2014, 10:17 am
by ZantiMissKnit
WHOA!!! That blue dorsal stripe!
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 23rd, 2014, 12:41 pm
by PsychedelicTarantula
This is an awesome thread. I'm a definitely a Thamnophis fan.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 23rd, 2014, 2:40 pm
by Knightkrawler5
West Tennessee Eastern
Eastern Garter Snake by
beefstu6586, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 24th, 2014, 4:54 pm
by Owen
Very cool post. Reminds me of the variation we have in the Coast Garters out here in the SF Bay Area.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 26th, 2014, 8:35 am
by tspuckler
Here's one that I found in Ottawa County (OH) in May of this year.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: July 31st, 2014, 5:05 pm
by CrimsonCoils
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 1st, 2014, 6:52 am
by ZantiMissKnit
This is my favorite post of the summer.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 1st, 2014, 7:39 pm
by AndyA1031
This is one of the more interesting garter snakes I've seen- this is a brick-red individual found on the eastern shore of MD back in 2010.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 2nd, 2014, 7:00 am
by pjfishpa
Another melanistic one from NW Ohio.
T sirtalis (melanistic)
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 2nd, 2014, 7:21 am
by Tamara D. McConnell
From south Alabama, last year:
garter by
Tamara McConnell1, on Flickr
garter in grass by
Tamara McConnell1, on Flickr
Baby, from 2012:
garter by
Tamara McConnell1, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 2nd, 2014, 2:02 pm
by Trey
That orange one from bama is a stunner!
I am amazed by the amount of garters in (far) NE ohio. Everytime I am out/ up there, it seems like theres no way Im seeing less than 50 of them.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 2nd, 2014, 4:33 pm
by Kfen
This was a cool post, I love the variety. When I was a little kid and solely id'ing stuff from the pics in the Audubon field guide, I thought I was finding several species of garter snakes around my grandparents house in upstate NY. Only as I got older did I realize they were all the same.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 4th, 2014, 6:05 pm
by Noah M
All three are
Thamnophis sirtalis
Here is a blue one from the gulf coast down here
Here is one from my garden in central Florida
And here is another one from central FL with a more checkered pattern.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 4th, 2014, 6:48 pm
by Tim Borski
OMG Tamara!! That first one orange one is the stuff!! Maybe I'll throw some up in a bit.
Tim
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 4th, 2014, 7:55 pm
by Tim Borski
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 5th, 2014, 6:26 am
by BillMcGighan
All this diversity, especially of the eastern race, is great.
TB
That first one orange one is the stuff!!
I have to second that.
Tim, your 3rd is pretty impressive too!
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 5th, 2014, 6:55 am
by Noah M
I like the blue and yellow ones Tim put up towards the end of his post.
I almost forgot, I have an Indiana garter to share.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 5th, 2014, 9:39 am
by PrimitiveTim
This is a pretty typical garter from the east coast of central Florida.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 6th, 2014, 6:10 pm
by tspuckler
Some spectacular stuff being posted here! This is my favorite out-of-state Eastern Garter Snake - from Union County, IL.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 7th, 2014, 9:52 am
by Zach_Lim
New favorite thread
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 7th, 2014, 10:41 am
by Mike VanValen
I thought this guy had some nice colors. Fairfield County, CT.
...and this one seemed to glow. Fairfield County, CT.
Classic striped. Middlesex County, CT.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: August 7th, 2014, 12:00 pm
by Noah M
Seems like there are only a few colors they don't represent. So far I have seen:
Green
Yellow
Orange
Brown
Blue
Red
Black
Tan
Cream
If anybody has a purple one, then I think that about covers the available colors.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: January 17th, 2016, 12:25 am
by jonathan
Here's another Eastern a bit different from the ones posted. I would say, "Why isn't that a red-sided?", but all the maps say Eastern.
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: January 19th, 2016, 5:58 am
by ZantiMissKnit
Here's a stunner from PA that Kyle Loucks flipped last May.
DSC_0044 by
Andrea, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: January 19th, 2016, 7:12 am
by John Williams
A few coastal Texas animals
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: January 20th, 2016, 11:44 am
by intermedius
Individual Sirtalis that I have found in Cape May County, NJ have a substantial amount of red. This might be due to residue tannin. Another Pine Barrens specimen that sadly slid away before I could photographed it was a gorgeous rusty red.
Eastern Garter Snake by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
Eastern Garter Snake by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
Specimens near my area in Mercer County, NJ can vary somewhat. Here are some that I have found underneath my board lines. Most of them are speckled with lots of spotting and large vertebral stripes. I rarely see garters with the classic black dorsum and yellow stripes pattern. A few Garter's I've had under my boards showed some substantial amounts of red or mahogany.
Eastern Gartersnakes by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
Eastern Gartersnake by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
Yearling Eastern Gartersnake by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
Specimens I have found in Maryland seemed to have the same dominant color, but some seem to be more "spotty" than others.
Eastern Gartersnake by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
Eastern Gartersnake by
Justin (NoNameKey), on Flickr
There are also some interesting publications regarding Garter Snake polymorphism and color variation. Some populations that are melanistic seem to be Mendelian in their inheritance of color patterns. I haven't had the time to read all of these, but they all seem to be good reads. Mooi et al. (2011) is the newest and is pretty interesting.
Carpenter, C. C. 1954. The presence and variation of lateral red coloration in a population of common garter snakes (Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis). Herpetologica 10:89–91.
Fitch, H. S. 1941. Geographic variation in garter snakes of the species Thamnophis sirtalis in the Pacific Coast region of North America. American Midland Naturalist 26:570–592.
King, R. B. 1988. Polymorphic populations of the garter snake Thamnophis sirtalis near Lake Erie. Herpetologica 44:451–458.
King, R. B. 2003. Mendelian inheritance of melanism in the garter snake Thamnophis sirtalis. Herpetologica 59:486–489.
Lawson, R. and R. B. King. 1996. Gene flow and melanism in Lake Erie garter snake populations. Biological Journal of the Linnean Society 59:1–19.
Mooi, R. D., Wiens, J. P., & Casper, G. S. (2011). Extreme color variation within populations of the Common Gartersnake, Thamnophis sirtalis, in central North America, with implications for subspecies status. Copeia, 2011(2), 187-200.
Placyk, J. S., G. M. Burghardt, R. L. Small, R. B. King, G. S. Casper, and J. W. Robinson. 2007. Post-glacial recolonization of the Great Lakes region by the common gartersnake (Thamnophis sirtalis) inferred from mtDNA sequences. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 43:452–467.
Westphal, M. 2007. On the evolution of correlated color traits in Garter Snakes. Unpubl. Ph.D. diss., Oregon State University, Portland, Oregon.
Westphal, M. and T. Morgan. 2010. Quantitative genetics of pigmentation development in 2 populations of the Common Garter Snake, Thamnophis sirtalis. Journal of Heredity 101:573–580.
Regardless, Garter Snakes are awesome. I myself am guilty of not appreciating them to their full level.
- Justin
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: February 2nd, 2016, 10:52 am
by Trey
Crappy picture of a nice one from Ohio
T. sirtalis by
Trey Keyes, on Flickr
Re: Color and Pattern Variations in Eastern Garter Snakes
Posted: February 2nd, 2016, 1:57 pm
by tspuckler