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Post by Mynki » December 21st, 2014, 3:59 pm

Hi all

I'm currently in Everglades City. I'm seeing lots of these lizards and would really appreciate an ID please. I think they're some kind of curly tailed skink, but am not 100% sure. Your help would be greatly appreciated confirming the species.

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Post by Mynki » December 21st, 2014, 6:53 pm

Help a dumb tourist please. Can anyone also id the following :-

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Post by dery » December 21st, 2014, 7:41 pm

Tá do nathair a nerodia (watersnake) -either a fospeiceas faciata, salann mangrove goirt nathair, nó b'fhéidir le beagán de araon. bhí an chósta ghnáthóg nó intíre? Try posting on the main forum too.

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Post by Rich in Reptiles » December 22nd, 2014, 7:05 am

The baby lizards look like Northern curly-tailed lizards to me.

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Post by Tamara D. McConnell » December 22nd, 2014, 7:53 am

The toad looks like a cane toad.

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Post by PrimitiveTim » December 22nd, 2014, 8:25 am

Curly tail lizards
cane toad
florida water snake (n. fasciata

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Post by Berkeley Boone » December 22nd, 2014, 10:05 am

I'm going to disagree about that toad. I didn't think marinus had knobs like that one does. Looks to me like a regular old Southern, terrestris.

Everything else, I accept. :)
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Post by Rich in Reptiles » December 22nd, 2014, 10:27 am

Tamara and Tim- cane toads don't have huge cranial crests like that do they?

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Post by Josh Holbrook » December 22nd, 2014, 11:55 am

Like Berkeley said, it's a B. terrestris - they grow them real big in and around some of the pine rocklands in ENP and Big Cypress.

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Post by simus343 » December 22nd, 2014, 12:23 pm

Josh Holbrook wrote:Like Berkeley said, it's a B. terrestris - they grow them real big in and around some of the pine rocklands in ENP and Big Cypress.
I second that. When I was in Australia I saw more than enough cane toads in NT and QLD to ingrain that species into my head haha. During a trip to Wakulla county FL in August 2013, at first I thought I saw a cane toad but once I caught the giant amphibian, I realized that it was just an enormous Anaxyrus terrestris about the size of a baseball. I remember reading that A. terrestris can live as old as 30 years. That coupled with an area rich in insects to feed upon can make some darn big A. terrestris. I had some pictures on my old laptop before it broke in half, I'll see if I can't find a way to get them off it somehow and onto my new computer.

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Post by Tamara D. McConnell » December 22nd, 2014, 12:51 pm

I get IDs wrong frequently, so I have no problem backing off of my initial ID of cane toad. Berkely, Josh, and Simus, thank you for the clarification.

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Post by Raymond McConnell » December 22nd, 2014, 12:53 pm

Tá do nathair a nerodia (watersnake) -either a fospeiceas faciata, salann mangrove goirt nathair, nó b'fhéidir le beagán de araon. bhí an chósta ghnáthóg nó intíre? Try posting on the main forum too.
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Post by Mynki » December 22nd, 2014, 5:11 pm

Thanks everyone. I thought the toad was a Southern, but it looked different to the others I saw as it has something stuck to its back and wondered if it was a different species.

Is this another Southern Toad?

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Anyone know what type of water snake this is?

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Post by Noah M » December 22nd, 2014, 6:06 pm

Your two most recent pics.

Looks like another southern toad. It at least is not an oak toad.

The snake is a brown water snake (Nerodia taxispilota)

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Post by Mynki » December 22nd, 2014, 6:22 pm

Thanks. In the last 30 hours I've seen :-

Eastern Diamond Rattlesnake
Florida Cottonmouth
Brown Water Snake
Florida Water Snake
Green Water Snake
Peninsular Cooter
American Alligator
Pig Frog
Southern Leopard Frog
Southern Toad
Brown Anole
Northern Curly Tailed Lizard
Green Iguana

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Post by Tamara D. McConnell » December 22nd, 2014, 6:26 pm

Sounds like a rockin' 30 hours! Happy for you!

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Post by PrimitiveTim » December 23rd, 2014, 6:59 am

ya ya y'all are right, it's a southern toad. Didn't really look close, it just looked really big and it was SoFlo. Hardly see anything but cane toads down there.

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Post by Mynki » December 23rd, 2014, 5:14 pm

Is this another watersnake?

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I've seen lots tonight, but none with this colouration. Thanks in advance. I also saw a common garter and a red bellied turtle to add to my list so am happy.

Thanks to all for your replies, I really appreciate your help.

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Post by Berkeley Boone » December 23rd, 2014, 7:38 pm

Mynki wrote:Is this another watersnake?
Sure is. Great finds! More pics!
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Post by Mynki » December 23rd, 2014, 7:40 pm

Berkeley Boone wrote:
Mynki wrote:Is this another watersnake?
Sure is. Great finds! More pics!
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I'll post a whole thread soon.

What species of watersnake is it though? :)

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Post by PrimitiveTim » December 23rd, 2014, 8:15 pm

Mynki wrote:
Berkeley Boone wrote:
Mynki wrote:Is this another watersnake?
Sure is. Great finds! More pics!
--Berkeley

I'll post a whole thread soon.

What species of watersnake is it though? :)
another florida water snake. N. fasciata

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Post by Josh Holbrook » December 24th, 2014, 6:18 am

Yep. That color is typical when young (stonger oranges) but usually fades to golds when they age. Not always though, of course.

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Post by Mynki » December 24th, 2014, 11:28 am

Two more for your consideration, Peninsular Cooter?

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Post by CodyKennedy » December 25th, 2014, 10:38 am

Those look like curly tails to me

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Post by Noah M » December 27th, 2014, 11:29 am

Your turtles look like Florida red-belly (P. nelsoni) but its hard telling. Red-bellies have a cusp on their lips while pen. cooters do not. They are very similar animals and I've even heard of them hybridizing in places in S. Florida.

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Post by dery » December 30th, 2014, 6:37 pm

Sorry about giving basic ID advice in another language. I'm still simmering about the unusual infighting involving me.

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Post by FloridaSerpent » January 2nd, 2015, 10:38 am

Florida watersnakes never get old for me. Gotta love em'!

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