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Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 15th, 2020, 2:28 pm
by mikephoto

Re: Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 16th, 2020, 3:58 pm
by Porter
mikephoto wrote:
October 15th, 2020, 2:28 pm


ImageBullsnake (Pituophis catinefer sayi) by Mike Day, on Flickr


That’s one cool looking snake right there! Would this be considered melanistic or is it common to come across them with all black blotch coloration like this in Wisconsin?

Re: Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 16th, 2020, 7:01 pm
by mikephoto
I've only seen them this color in one county in Wisconsin. They are quite striking in appearance.

Re: Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 17th, 2020, 7:16 am
by BillMcGighan
Very impressive pics and animals

Re: Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 17th, 2020, 8:22 am
by mikephoto
Thanks!

Re: Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 19th, 2020, 4:57 am
by Porter
Oh I believe that they are striking... :lol: Cool stuff man. I found a great basin gopher snake a couple years ago that had all black Dorsal blotching running from nose to tail. With a higher than usual consistency of black on the neck portion. The usual color scheme for those is black from the neck, fading into brown mid body, and fading back into black to the tail. I always wondered if it was considered to be partial melanistic

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Re: Wisconsin Bullsnake observations 2020

Posted: October 19th, 2020, 12:46 pm
by Kelly Mc
I dont know enough about color genetics to make a comment on the melanistic commentary you mention but yeah agree. like, some mammals ie; Lion juvie boys will produce black manes.., some 'black bordered' animals will have deeply infused crossovers or chevrons . I had a sweet crote lady , rescued from idiots, who was solid charcoal black - actually 'Mottley' solid black except after a shed - when she presented w hints of pattern. Yet so dark I dont know whether she was oreganus or atrox. No reliable locality Data from the cretins whom I picked her up from. I only knew I loved her, and named her Beth. She was eventually rehomed with a hells angel masonry guy who had a heart of gold, who built her an environment in a triangle Stone work env. in his living room.

That great basin is Gorgeous.