Took some quick photos of an interesting elegans I found the other day.
Anyone ever run across the gray head like that?
-rob aka smetlogik aka pfunkherpdaddy in association with iherp films©
Interesting elegans
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that thing is pretty freaky looking..
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That thing is weird.
I found this one last year. Not as cool as yours, imo. The head on yours looks almost blue.
I found this one last year. Not as cool as yours, imo. The head on yours looks almost blue.
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Thamnophis elegans is such a variable species. I wonder if anyone is tackling a phylogeny?
Here is a melanistic elegans from Nevada:
Here is a melanistic elegans from Nevada:
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Bryan, that's the most interesting elegans I've ever seen.
Rob, I saw one like that a couple of summers ago, above 10,000 ft. I got some so so pics, I'll have to dig them up. Certainly an unusual animal.
Rob, I saw one like that a couple of summers ago, above 10,000 ft. I got some so so pics, I'll have to dig them up. Certainly an unusual animal.
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There is a population of black-headed wandering garters in the Albuquerque area. I've seen multiple individuals with jet black heads.
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A few days ago I collected one from a xeric site that was nearly solid black on the venter. Normally I find them with a plain buffy belly, sometimes lightly speckled with black and occasionally a vivid blue. Indeed a highly variable snake. Never seen very much variation on the head like that though. That's a neat find.
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That is an epic garter snake! Was that found at the spot you showed me the other day?
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Yep. It was on the move cruising by the side of that bldg.SoutheastColorado wrote:That is an epic garter snake! Was that found at the spot you showed me the other day?William
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Wow! What a great find. That is one cool looking garter, Rob.
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devlin wrote:Wow! What a great find. That is one cool looking garter, Rob.
what up hombre!!! Good to see you're still kicking!
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Here is a weird female I found behind my house (Flagstaff Az,)....
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That is a weird looking female in the last pic with those blotches....
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Waddup Joe!...Yup, kickin', lurkin', herpin'...changin' diapers...Joe Farah wrote:devlin wrote:Wow! What a great find. That is one cool looking garter, Rob.
what up hombre!!! Good to see you're still kicking!
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My threads always turn into crap.devlin wrote:...changin' diapers...
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HahahahahahahaMy threads always turn into crap.
Interesting looking elegans for sure.
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I never knew all these forms existed. Nice finds everyone.
Rich, that female would look pie bald if those blotches were pure white, some are though, it looks like. I don't know whats going on there but it looks a little too different to just be variation, but I don't know. Maybe calico would be a good name.
Rich, that female would look pie bald if those blotches were pure white, some are though, it looks like. I don't know whats going on there but it looks a little too different to just be variation, but I don't know. Maybe calico would be a good name.