Amen Brother

[Porter]

Mehhh... I’m Pretty sure it was just a valley garter

[Porter]

I mean, a good musky shit is enough to clear out a parking lot

[Jefferson]

His dream reminded me of Jordan Peterson-style intepretation of archetypical representations like the "Dragon of chaos." Willful blindness (teachers and kids ignoring the serpent/dragon or misunderstanding its destructive nature) ruins societies, whether it's willful blindness toward an internal problem, foreign aggressor, whatever, just looking away and continuing with the status quo is always more painless in the short run. But in the long run, willfull blindness lets the "dragon of chaos" prevail every time.

As a Christian myself, he's got a point that it's very unwise to "play with serpents" when he means Satan and sin more generally, and even more unwise to let your family or society be pathologized by evil, but I take offense that because I play with literal snakes, this guy thinks that's somehow cavorting with the Devil. That's the non sequitur of the month right there.

[Porter]

His dream reminded me of Jordan Peterson-style intepretation of archetypical representations like the "Dragon of chaos." Willful blindness (teachers and kids ignoring the serpent/dragon or misunderstanding its destructive nature) ruins societies, whether it's willful blindness toward an internal problem, foreign aggressor, whatever, just looking away and continuing with the status quo is always more painless in the short run. But in the long run, willfull blindness lets the "dragon of chaos" prevail every time.

As a Christian myself, he's got a point that it's very unwise to "play with serpents" when he means Satan and sin more generally, and even more unwise to let your family or society be pathologized by evil, but I take offense that because I play with literal snakes, this guy thinks that's somehow cavorting with the Devil. That's the non sequitur of the month right there.

Yeah, my first impression was… Hmmm This guy seems to be 追龙

Lol I agree. I get the metaphoric element of what he’s saying. I even agree with it to a certain extent. I was boreding through my YouTube channel vids, on my TV, and his video popped up as a suggestion. So I went ahead and watched it and was immediately fascinated by the literal tone he starts off with. I tend to approach life with a standup comedians mentality. So, I couldn’t help myself from exploring the humor in analyzing his speech from a literal point of view ..From the standpoint of a field Herper helping to identify the species

I like what he has to say about the importance order and chaos

[Kelly Mc]

Someone with editing skills just needs to replace Serpent and Dragon with tumblr and tictoc.

[Porter]

Someone with editing skills just needs to replace Serpent and Dragon with tumblr and tictoc.

It may in fact be the other way around Kelly I kinda sorta dated a girl for about eight months who told me all about Tumblr. Apparently, it was used for amateur porn before some lawsuit passed that removed the vids. As far as I know, TickTock doesn’t allow nudity.

As far as the decent content goes, I think you’re right. There’s definitely a metamorphosis there lol I don’t know much about either one of them

[Kelly Mc]

Agree, i have a small child in my life now, thru marriage kinda, and man its strange out there.

Like no room to be a kid anymore.

I really like that Peterson guy. He has sad eyes. From knowing stuff i guess.

[Coluber Constrictor]

Jordan Peterson is a crackpot!

[Porter]

Jordan Peterson is a crackpot!

you can’t drop a bomber like that without giving us some juice… Explain yourself!

[Kelly Mc]

Yeah what gives All I know is I saw him in another thing where he was surrounded by screaming ppl with clown hair and I thought he was pretty good considering the alternative!

[Porter]

Is it true what he’s saying about surfing and what the Hawaiians believed? I never heard of the guy until Jefferson mentioned him and his comment. So I googled, “order and chaos Jordan Peterson” and only watched that one video. I’m a long time Jimi Hendrix fan. what he said about order and chaos in the video I posted, reminded me of Hendrix guitar playing and jam sessions. He seem to always be balancing on that line and It was a reflection more or less of life and humanity. It also reminded me of skateboarding a little bit. The only surfing I’ve ever done is on the tube but skateboarding I think is similar in the fact that when you throw a flip trick out but you’re able to keep control of it, it’s similar to that balance between order and chaos. The process of learning the tricks. A 360 flip is kind of wild and crazy, but once you learn the artistic flow of it and understand how to do it, you taking chaos and put it in order... Kinda sorta lol

[Porter]

OK, so just a heads up… I did some extensive brainstorming last night and I figured out that God is an octopus

[BillMcGighan]

Scott,
I know we've gotten pretty lean with herp tales, but this load of crap needs to go to board line.
This country is so great where everyone has the right to believe what they want, but not dump it on this section of the forum.

[Porter]

Its Like I always say, when that girl turns me down after just the first few messages... “You’re speaking calculus… I’m speaking geometry… But what we both need to consider is, 𝛑 -


**I have never said that to a girl**

[Porter]

OK, I’m gonna keep this as simple as possible and just present the ideas without diving into too much. I’m just presenting the idea..

In the video, the man states that an octopus would have to have a brain the size of the room the two men are sitting in, in order to have the knowledge and ability to be able to camoulflage themselves the way that they do. If fact they refer to an octopus as simply a brain. I’m assuming that’s a comparison to the human brain having to be that size. Saying that a human brain the size of the room equals the intelligence of a small octopus of normal size. They compare it to a super computer.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/how ... n-octopus/

Firstly, the octopus as we know it is Not the same species as God. It is in fact one of the replicas that it made of itself. Keep in mind, mice and humans are 97% genetically identical And the DNA strands between all living life have very little differences in the coding. God is much larger, differently shaped, and has a brain somewhere between the size of the United States of America and state of California. Shirley that brain has far superior camouflaging ability than the octopuses we know of. Not to mention it’s brain is far beyond a super computer. Think of this giant octopus as a mad scientist that has the ability to construct strands of DNA.

Man was created to carry out God‘s plan:
Think of a platypus...Obviously a mix between bird and mammal. Now, think of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. Imagine for one moment that they are truly humans/mammals/animals with wolves heads and what not. This was gods first attempts to create an animal that was capable of doing something that God is not capable of doing itself... Leave the water. This mastermind has one obstacle it can’t breach. It is bound beneath the surface of the water. So it had to create a vessel, a machine, a car, a spaceship that could do his work on land. Because God is so big he can’t Create something large enough for him to drive onto land himself (everything he creates is from his own severed tenticles). However he is able to sever parts of himself which contain his own DNA. That mixed with organic DNA from the earth created the first marine animals and later the first land animals. You really have to think of this guy as a mad scientist, going through a trial and error of cross genetics to come up with the perfect tool… Or vessel. After crossing the genetics between pig and monkey, he finally had a "car" capable for his children to survive on land in. And create his vision with...

God created man in the image of himself:
Do you think of those words and first thing to mind is… Humans don’t look like an octopus. However you’re just not thinking of it in the right way. All human beings are 60% water. They/we are bound to water. We are unable of leaving the water. However within the human body, the human vessel, we’re able to live on land to carry out God’s plan.
Think of the nervous system as arms controlling the vessel.

What is god‘s plan?
Boy, wouldn’t we like to know. I think first you need to look at the instincts embedded not only within all animals but within humans. We all have the desire two explore new frontiers... this instinctual push to go beyond what we are confined to. God‘s plan is to get off this earth or free himself from water...or somewhere. Keep in mind that we are a chunk of his living severed tentacle. Therefore we are connected to his brain, his DNA, His way of thinking. We don’t know why we have these instincts. We also don’t have any explanation for why or how the pyramids were built. Farthest we’ve gotten in understanding its purpose is that it was supposed to send some kind of signal or sound wave shooting into space from the earth. This may be how God was able to escape earth. Maybe he is already gone, and we are just the left behind tools he used to achieve that. Building a rocket to land on the moon could simply be a lingering instinct of a new civilization with no purpose, But containing the same instinctual drive to free God from the earth. Lacking his Star Wars-force-like mental levitation ability and guidance. However if that was unsuccessful, maybe he is compelling us to build a ship because the pyramid did not work.

Santa Claus is always watching you:
One thing we know about gods in all religions, is that they are always keeping an eye on us. Also that it’s important for us to be good or else we will upset them. God knows what you’re doing at all times. This is a part that science thinks is ridiculous and impossible. However if the octopus tentacle still tries to feed the octopus even after it has been severed, perhaps we are doing the same thing. Still trying to carry out what God ultimately needs, which is to escape the earth, positive energy perhaps being the fuel in the process. For some reason maintaining positive energy within ourselves is something of high importance to God‘s plan. When thinking of positive energy in regards to particles, electrons, and so forth. We then begin to see how such a strong signal or launch could be propelled from the earth

The Manson family LSD mental connection:
I’m in no way a supporter of murder, drug use, or the Manson family. But there’s an interesting video where Charlie Manson is speaking in court and One of his girls is standing behind him, with Charlie’s back turned to her, and she is lip-synching the words coming out of his mouth as he is saying them. Some believe she is actually speaking the words and they are coming out of Charley’s mouth. No matter what you choose to believe of who’s doing the actual speaking, it’s clear that they are mentally connected and thinking and speaking simultaneously in real time. This was something achieved by the use of LSD and breaking down The confines of reality within the mind. You would have to be a believer or at least except the possibilities of quantum physics to except this as evidence. There have been documents that you can look up online or on Instagram, posted recently of LSD experimentation in the 60s. Here is a video if you’re interested in looking up those true government documents:




I’m normally not one to believe in conspiracies. In fact I’m definitely the skeptic! But if two human minds can mentally connect in this way, then no doubt there can be a mental connection between God and the human being. So the idea of God is always watching you/Santa Claus is always watching you to teach children A simplified version of the concept, then this is proof of how God can do it. Scientific proof. Manson and the girl we’re standing in the court room at the same time. If God created all the animals on earth… That’s fair enough to say that he is capable of seeing through their eyes. How is it that scientists and even movie directors have stated, “the idea just came to me. I didn’t think of it… It was like someone else was giving me the information.“ The Bible talks of God speaking through certain people. This would be that phenomenon with the purpose of caring out God‘s plan. I don’t think God has a language. I think he must speak in mental images. And speaking in feelings. Which better expresses the importance of the need for people to be good in order to create positive energy. Perhaps the positive energy itself is what’s keeping the world balanced and keeping it from sure eruption and destruction.

If there ever was a flying saucer that came to earth, or left earth… During the time we’re making spaceships, oh by the way, the flying saucer just happens to be in the shape for a large octopus to fit into. Maybe he got us to mine (from hard rock. He has soft body) and build suitable space materials, build the ship himself underwater, and that famous flying saucer photo is of him leaving. Maybe, the classic jelly-bodied man-like aliens that look like men with huge black eyes, werent from a ship crashing. They were underwater human workers he created and used to construct the ship after we mined and created the materials for him. Or perhaps he sent the Jelly people up in a saucer to test his prototype, which failed, and crashed to earth. Leaving the underwater Jelly aquamen workers with octopus-sized brains for us to find.

How could this God...animal of yours...goddamn alien...still be alive, dummy!!??
Think of the lifespan of a butterfly in comparison to a cat. Then Cat to human. Now Human to an animal not from earth with the brain the size of USA. The dinosaurs came and went in a few weeks. Maybe God got trapped or encased in some sort of prison (the Earth)... or possibly sent, with supplies (meteorites)...to colonize

[Porter]

[b]Here is the original message from the other post the Bill had removed[/b]

Scott,
I know we've gotten pretty lean with herp tales, but this load of crap needs to go to board line.
This country is so great where everyone has the right to believe what they want, but not dump it on this section of the forum.

Bill, I know what you must be thinking… How familiar are you with scientific knowledge on octopi, or octopuses? I’ve seen tons of photographs and videos posted by field Herper’s so I figured it was safe to post here. Although it’s only been a 2 hour process so far (drive from Nevada to Sacramento) of fact checking… Surprisingly everything connects so far.

I wasn’t going to present this until later because it’s better to establish a few other things first… I thought I was going to get some questions. But here is one of the first things everyone needs to read: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... n-2403303/

Can I ask if you’re speaking from a religious or scientific point of you? I’m hoping to get opinions and challenging debates from both sides so feel free to say whatever you like!

Here’s something to get your mind in the right place before considering the theory. It’s a video but I don’t know how to add it because it’s not from YouTube. I think it’s ABC:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/how ... n-octopus/

I’ve got about 18 paragraphs of explanation so far. But it’ll have to wait for the weekend. I’m on my way to work

[Porter]

The purpose of the exercise above is to illustrate HOW the idea of God is scientifically possible

Furthermore… An area of interest:
If the original origins of the Bible and Other religions with an emphasis on the importance of moral quality, do have significance and hold water… then perhaps the human beings Purpose may simply be to serve as a conductor to convert negative energy into positive energy. This is only possible with the ability of choice. Think of Rumpelstiltskin... Except with the agenda to convert negative to positive, evil into good, hate to love, lust into love, ect... Lust being a selfish reason and love being an unselfish reason. The human being May simply be a balancing unit to keep the earth from self-destructing. the simple concept of having a positive attitude brings positive results. Everything around you is made of Adams. If a feeling (positive or negative energies) can leave the boundaries of human body (aura), you might say a person is able to control the air/positive or negative force surrounding him or herself. If such a thing were possible, one might say you could sense if someone was staring at you, when your back is turned. Think of the two slit experiment and quantum physics. Somehow the particles know that they are being observed and at that point they act accordingly. The connection between the atoms could be possibly so strong, that Combined by A large Group of people Giving off the same energy, could influence warm and cold fronts, ultimately the weather. The weather already serving its purpose as An equalizer/regulator and Determining factor of vegetation growth & removal, Animal populations , and a balancing force of nature. 🌧

For some reason, an emphasis on good moral quality is one of the oldest and most important concepts passed on throughout The evolution of man and religion. Until man decides not to listen… Then we are left with Decaying structures, foundations & rock formations, And ancient pyramids…

[Porter]

Ok one last bit of info...Human being = Satellite:




If God can see through our eyes... perhaps he has begun using those mental images for new creations. Displaying a sense of humor, using the DNA of toys dropped over the side of boats, A Lure from Something much larger beneath the surface, sending us a message that all of his creations are the equivalent of what toys are to us in our world...or working on a new Gods plan?

[Kelly Mc]

There ia something frequently brilliant and convergent and hilarious about your observations and vernaculars.

Thats like nature itself.

[Porter]

Lol I’ve got a pretty productively creative imagination That’s a lifesaver when you’re at the end of a 13 hour shift and have a 2 Hour drive ahead of you through the Sierra Mountains. Gotta keep that Brian awake lol

I mean, it’s definitely 80s B-Horror movie worthy for sure

[Porter]

There ia something frequently brilliant and convergent and hilarious about your observations and vernaculars.

Thats like nature itself.

Lol I’ve got a pretty productively creative imagination That’s a lifesaver when you’re at the end of a 13 hour shift and have a 2 Hour night drive ahead of you through the Sierra Mountains. Gotta keep that brain awake lol

I mean, it’s definitely 80s B-Horror movie worthy for sure

[Porter]

However, Seemingly unworthy of earning a conversation over coffee and pie With a beautiful young reptilian-loving college grad who finds it irrational to take a chance with a guy who simply doesn’t add up

[Kelly Mc]

Bummer.

Maybe it just wasnt the right day.

[Porter]

Bummer.

Maybe it just wasnt the right day.

Lol There was never a girl… It was a satirical synopsis of an assumed predicament

Its Like I always say, when that girl turns me down after just the first few messages... “You’re speaking calculus… I’m speaking geometry… But what we both need to consider is, 𝛑 -



**I have never said that to a girl**

…Meant to be a humorous generalization delivered with supple flirtatious yet charming persistence

[Porter]

I found this video today on YouTube… dig

[Kelly Mc]

You know Porter; you dont take an authentic compliment real well.

Unless its from some older man, however the thing is you are kind of; could we say ; dimensional and this forum does promote a rather dry line when it comes to expression.

This isnt what I have experienced with Scientists - no not new ones - older ones, secure, adventurous, astute to the vibrant, electric line between opinion and truth.

Underestimating features, clues, nuances, conditions, isn't something you would do whilst herping, yet you do in this format and its a shame as you have talent only constricted by your own fears and beliefs.

I have attracted intelligent women, who are slim, feminine, and powerful. Im little tomboy who doesnt even have a ----. But Ive never wanted for femnine, intellectual (more so brightly diversely than my ad hock self) female company.

Its like you cant see how the women you wish to attract - percieve interacting with others at all.

I appreciate your talents but you get in the way of them. Women see it it.

[Kelly Mc]

You know Porter; you dont take an authentic compliment real well.

Unless its from some older man, however the thing is you are kind of; could we say ; dimensional and this forum does promote a rather dry line when it comes to expression.

This isnt what I have experienced with Scientists - no not new ones - older ones, secure, adventurous, astute to the vibrant, electric line between opinion and truth.

Underestimating features, clues, nuances, conditions, isn't something you would do whilst herping, yet you do in this format and its a shame as you have talent only constricted by your own fears and beliefs.

I have attracted intelligent women, who are slim, feminine, and powerful. Im little tomboy who doesnt even have a ----. But Ive never wanted for femnine, intellectual (more so brightly diversely than my ad hock self) female company.

Its like you cant see how the women you wish to attract - percieve interacting with others at all.

I appreciate your talents but you get in the way of them. Women see it it.

[Kelly Mc]

You couldnt handle what I have - maneuvering primates before bounndary guideline zoo modalities, a hippo - named Mugs the Hippo who crushed my supervisors foot, An irascible, adult male Yak who charged me every morn, a crote stick, bites to the face and other parts per muscular boids, nasty open lacerations from various animal and animal work situs.

Fearlessness, baby. Fear nothing. Especially "Approval".


Dont be the guy holding the jacket on the Saturday night when "the boys are back in town"

Straight chicks, think thats lame.

[Porter]

You know Porter; you dont take an authentic compliment real well.

Unless its from some older man, however the thing is you are kind of; could we say ; dimensional and this forum does promote a rather dry line when it comes to expression.

This isnt what I have experienced with Scientists - no not new ones - older ones, secure, adventurous, astute to the vibrant, electric line between opinion and truth.

Underestimating features, clues, nuances, conditions, isn't something you would do whilst herping, yet you do in this format and its a shame as you have talent only constricted by your own fears and beliefs.

I have attracted intelligent women, who are slim, feminine, and powerful. Im little tomboy who doesnt even have a ----. But Ive never wanted for femnine, intellectual (more so brightly diversely than my ad hock self) female company.

Its like you cant see how the women you wish to attract - percieve interacting with others at all.

I appreciate your talents but you get in the way of them. Women see it it.

You couldnt handle what I have - maneuvering primates before bounndary guideline zoo modalities, a hippo - named Mugs the Hippo who crushed my supervisors foot, An irascible, adult male Yak who charged me every morn, a crote stick, bites to the face and other parts per muscular boids, nasty open lacerations from various animal and animal work situs.

Fearlessness, baby. Fear nothing. Especially "Approval".


Dont be the guy holding the jacket on the Saturday night when "the boys are back in town"

Straight chicks, think thats lame.

It’s a joke… it’s not about you. It’s just a sweet witty joke. Try to imagine somebody saying it, instead of writing it... “pi-pie.” It’s a twist on how they both sound the same when spoken. That’s the punchline. It’s an imaginary scenario, Like how a standup comedian would say something. The girl thinks/see’s life from left side of her brain. I.e. calculus… The guy is thinks/see’s Life from the right side of his brain. I.e geometry… The girl turns the guy down because she doesn’t understand his point of view, so the guy tries to tell her it’s just because we’re not seeing eye to eye. He’s suggesting that he and the girl go and have A conversation over a piece of pie...like go on a date and get to know each other, before she prejudges him based on just a couple of messages over the Internet. The joke is based around math because pi-pie is the punchline. pi sounds like pie when it’s spoken. Pi Is considered to be an irrational number... A number that has no end. A number that doesn’t add up. The girl is assuming that her taking a chance with a guy who doesn’t think like her, simply doesn’t, “add up. “ It’s a charming punchline. It’s intended to be like something scripted for a movie. there’s no direct relation to the silly octopus theory. The octopus theory is meant to be entertaining and thought provoking at best. It’s not something I’m taking very seriously. It was just something I chased down the rabbit hole for a couple hours to keep myself awake at work.

It has nothing to do with you and shouldn’t be taken serious.

I’ve got a bad habit of responding to forum comments to 3000 people reading them, because their public… Even when I write to a person who has commented directly, I’m aware of the reality that I’m writing to other viewers, not just the person I’m responding to...These aren’t private messages. I’m sorry you take some of the things that I write personal or in a negative way… Honestly I’m not thinking of you when I write them. I’m always hoping to attract some field Herper girl out there who I’ve never met… and hopefully get a private message or a comment from her…Get her attention in some way. Im an Old fashion hopeless romantic like that so if it seems like I’m writing things that are intended for a woman’s eyes, that’s the reason

[Porter]

I mean, what’s funnier then a guy who thinks God is an octopus…?

[Porter]

It’s intended to relieve tension between People who Choose to believe in religion vs people who choose to believe in science

[Porter]

So when the guy in the joke says “ What we both need to consider is pi-pie” he means two things simultaneously:

1) that he and the girl should go on a date and talk before judging each other through written messages that lack vocal tone and easily confused.

2) That like pi, Life doesn’t always add up and that she should give him a chance even though her initial impression is that he is not the right guy for her because they have different opinions and viewpoints on life

...What ties the whole thing together is:

He’s a right minded thinking guy… Which is why he’s the character who thinks in geometry/art… Suggesting that he is the “right “guy for her.

She thinks with her left side of her brain… Calculus/math. Which is why she Is the character who would rather be “left”alone

[Kelly Mc]

Just commenting on a recurrent theme.

Nobody else does. Lol