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 Post subject: Advice breeding Hyspiglena torquata
PostPosted: November 9th, 2016, 1:43 am 

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Hi, I acquired a male night snake (Hyspiglena torquata) the last week-end. But this species is very unknown in French terrariophily, and the breeder could give me only a little advice to keep this snake in captivity. that's why I asking you to give some experiences on this species ! :D

I'll post a photo of it soon, it is so cuteee ! Currently it lives in a terrarium of 45x45x45cm with a hot spot at 34°C the day and 28°C the night (I use a ceramic bulb) and sand as substrat. I gather a lot information on its ecology to better understand its physiology.

THANKS EVERYONE !


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 Post subject: Re: Advice breeding Hyspiglena torquata
PostPosted: November 14th, 2016, 11:00 am 

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Location: Southern Cal.
A lot of information is here:
http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/p ... icola.html
http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/p ... alata.html

Anything California: http://www.californiaherps.com/index.html
Anything Arizona: http://www.reptilesofaz.org/

I have seen countless Hypsiglena in the wild. Mostly I have seen them in desert washes where banded geckos (Coleonyx) are also plentiful.


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2016, 10:37 am 
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Nice packet of information Craig. I appreciate your post and the pics and input on this species.

So a seller/breeder of cb Night Snakes couldnt provide any info on keeping the snakes he breeds in captivity...

In all my years working with reptiles, and all the breeders Ive had contact with and faxes received from suppliers I dont recall a single one from a Night Snake Breeder.


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2016, 12:00 pm 

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I actually thought the guy was a troll... I too have never heard of anyone keeping Hypsiglena (especially since he spelled it wrong).
I keep Trimorphodon lambda ... AZ. Lyre snakes and have bred them (but I am just weird like that). I have another friend that does AZ Longnosed snakes Rhinocheilus lecontei... Just because he thinks they're cool.

Lots of folks I know have kept Ca. shovelnosed snakes (Chionactus occipitalus). My wife had one in her kindergarten class for almost 10 years. My Biology teacher when I was in high school kept a glossy snake...

Herpers are just REALLY odd.


And Mele Kalikimaka to all :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2016, 12:26 pm 
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craigb wrote:
I actually thought the guy was a troll... I too have never heard of anyone keeping Hypsiglena (especially since he spelled it wrong).
I keep Trimorphodon lambda ... AZ. Lyre snakes and have bred them (but I am just weird like that). I have another friend that does AZ Longnosed snakes Rhinocheilus lecontei... Just because he thinks they're cool.

Lots of folks I know have keep Ca. shovelnosed snakes (Chionactus occipitalus). My wife had one in her kindergarten class for almost 10 years. My Biology teacher when I was in high school kept a glossy snake...

Herpers are just REALLY odd.


And Mele Kalikimaka to all :mrgreen:



Agreed - some of the best personal projects ever are just that. I often have thought that the broadest face of herpetoculture mainstreamed to the buying public is not where our greatest talents are.

When I first saw this post I also thought of Regalringneck who has given us a taste from time to time of his herpetoculture skills and knowledge.


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2016, 2:30 pm 

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It was very suspicious how someone in France could get a night snake from the western United States. But also like you said they are not even remotely common on the commercial market.

It may be a junior high school kid here in the states somewhere. So I sought to educate rather than intimidate. I also wish I'd had those resources when I was younger.


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2016, 8:43 pm 
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Teddy,
I have a San Diego night snake that I keep in an 8" round deli cup with EcoEarth coco fibers, some dried oak leaves, a piece of bark, and a couple of small sea shells to hide under. I keep it close to room temperature all the time, and maintain the substrate a little bit moist. The snake is doing great. It just gave me a perfect shed skin for my collection. The only difficult thing is finding small lizards for it to eat. It takes banded geckos, fence lizards, side-blotched lizards, and western skinks.
I wouldn't recommend using a heat lamp. Maybe just a small under-tank heating pad in one corner of a tank the size you describe. Night temps in the range of 62-67 degrees F are good. I don't think they like hot and dry conditions.

Jeff


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PostPosted: December 7th, 2016, 5:14 am 

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Thanks Jeff !
Excellent, concise care information.

craig


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PostPosted: December 9th, 2016, 10:42 pm 

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Well it's been about a month since the original post and reply. I wonder if Teddy Bruy will grace us with a 3rd post thanking us for the valuable information. I hope so, but I am also the person that admits to being a cynic.

On a happier note: Happy holidays to all, and good clutches to all next year !!!


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PostPosted: December 30th, 2016, 7:01 pm 
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Wow Interesting!..

Views on breeding Night Snakes has skyrocketed since the night before Christmas...

Stocking Stuffers?? : :P


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PostPosted: January 31st, 2017, 8:29 am 

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That is so weird..... :oops:
I guess nonsense is amusing to some. :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes:


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