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Southern Pine

Post by monklet » April 13th, 2011, 6:20 pm

I took some pics, then was checking them out and she went into this thing... Pretty cool!
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Re: Southern Pine

Post by AlanER » April 14th, 2011, 12:15 pm

The most beautiful of the Pituophis.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Don Becker » April 14th, 2011, 12:50 pm

AlanER wrote:The most beautiful of the Pituophis.
Pfft... The bullsnakes from Iowa and Illinois are prettier if you ask me.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Paul White » April 14th, 2011, 1:15 pm

a big reddish bull gives that a run for it's money...but it is a stunning snake

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » April 14th, 2011, 2:06 pm

Well then, what about this...
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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » April 14th, 2011, 2:42 pm

...and like WTF?
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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Tamara D. McConnell » April 14th, 2011, 4:43 pm

That white southern pine is stunning.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » April 14th, 2011, 5:30 pm

Thanks Tamara, how about this one? :)
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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Paul White » April 14th, 2011, 7:32 pm

that one with the yellow...what?? Is that a morph, locality, selective breeding or something else???? OMG awesome

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » April 15th, 2011, 7:18 am

:lol: Long story Paul. It is a likely at least 3/4 Louisiana Pine (P. ruthveni) and is apparently from an infamous line that got "tainted". With what, I can't say for sure but may be Black Pine (P. m. lodingi), as if that makes any sense. Also could be a result of line breeding "clean-up" and color intensification. If you replaced the high yellow with a cool beige, and painted some mottling on the head it would look pretty much like ruthveni.

Here is a 99% sure for pure ruthveni. Note that due to limited original breeding stock due to this species rarity this specimen is likely "cleaner" than you'd find in the wild.
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As is I just call him a "WTF Pine" ...fanstastic pet, extremely tame and robust. I have decided I won't breed him though as there is already enough confusion regarding the CB population of this species.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Don Becker » April 15th, 2011, 1:43 pm

I'll take these any day over what was posted already

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » April 15th, 2011, 3:43 pm

Yeah, that top one's a really nice "Kankakee" ...well deserving of a decent photograph. But I enjoy many different pits, and snakes in general. Hard to have just one favorite and even harder to have everything I want ;-) The important thing I guess is that I love what I've got :)

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Paul White » April 15th, 2011, 5:48 pm

Hard to have just one favorite and even harder to have everything I want ;-) The important thing I guess is that I love what I've got :)
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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Gary2sons » April 22nd, 2011, 6:38 pm

Really like that first pic! :thumb:

You certainly have an awesome collection of pits!

Seems like this forum is starting to get some traffic. :D

Gary

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Carl Koch » May 8th, 2011, 5:42 pm

I agree with Gary -- that first pic/animal ROCKS.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by MHollanders » May 8th, 2011, 5:58 pm

monklet wrote:Here is a 99% sure for pure ruthveni. Note that due to limited original breeding stock due to this species rarity this specimen is likely "cleaner" than you'd find in the wild.
You're saying that this animal more closely resembles ruthveni than a wild specimen?

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » May 9th, 2011, 7:20 am

Thanks Carl and Gary for the nice compliments. That first one is a great snake but is being finicky lately for some reason, and it's a female too. Very gentle animal though.
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monklet wrote:Here is a 99% sure for pure ruthveni. Note that due to limited original breeding stock due to this species rarity this specimen is likely "cleaner" than you'd find in the wild.
You're saying that this animal more closely resembles ruthveni than a wild specimen?
:lol: Oh, not at all. Just seems like most WC ruthveni are "dirtier" and are even considered "fugly" pits by some who hold them in great affection. The general wisdom seems to be that line breeding tends to clean up patterns and bring out colors, probably mostly due to either purposeful or inadvertent selection for cleaner animals.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Tim Borski » May 9th, 2011, 9:54 am

I've got one of them WC fugly ones...actually it's very pretty (if you can get past it's looks.) :lol:

Brad, that thing is gorgeous! And you have exactly how many Pits? Jeez, Loo-eez. :thumb:
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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » May 9th, 2011, 2:36 pm

Tim Borski wrote:I've got one of them WC fugly ones...actually it's very pretty (if you can get past it's looks.) :lol:

Brad, that thing is gorgeous! And you have exactly how many Pits? Jeez, Loo-eez. :thumb:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: ...I guess I have exactly 2 (many). Let's see now, guess that would be 15 Pituophis total.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by Snake Junky » May 12th, 2011, 4:03 am

Beautiful pits. :thumb: I have always wanted a Pine or two. Reminds me of growing up catching 6 foot Gophers. I haven't found one over 6 foot since. I think Im gonna look for some Pines for sale. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by justinm » June 4th, 2011, 6:06 pm

monklet wrote:Yeah, that top one's a really nice "Kankakee" ...well deserving of a decent photograph. But I enjoy many different pits, and snakes in general. Hard to have just one favorite and even harder to have everything I want ;-) The important thing I guess is that I love what I've got :)

Kankakee? I found one nicer than either of those literally in MY backyard, I mean in the yard. I'll post pics later when I get them online. Nice snakes Monklet, don't listen to Don.

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by monklet » June 6th, 2011, 6:57 am

Thanks Justin, post 'em up!

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Re: Southern Pine

Post by DMong » June 7th, 2011, 7:17 pm

Gosh Brad!,.......those are some stunning animals, and awesomely done photos to boot! :beer:


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