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 Post subject: Invert forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 2:48 am 
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I'd like to see an invert forum (or at least, really scary spiders.) :mrgreen:
We've got Fish and Birds...
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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 2:54 am 
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No, that's dumb...oh, sorry, replied to my own post.


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 3:40 am 
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I would have nothing to add to it besides a couple of purdy pictures like this one

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but I love seeing good macro shots of insects (and spiders, even though I'm terribly arachnophobic), I'm all for it.

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 4:29 am 
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If we have inverts, we'll need a mammal forum :-D. I've got a couple of me-holding-armadillo shots laying around :beer:


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 4:42 am 
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The Dragonfly's nice. Screw the mammals. (jk) Forum hijack. :lol:

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 5:27 am 
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I'm down for an invert forum.

Josh - armadillos can carry leprosy

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 5:56 am 

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Speakin' of leprosy!

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Lifer armadillo (or as I call them, kangaroo turtles)...


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 6:18 am 
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To me, the herping experience is the whole package: the hunt, herps first, habitats. then all other interesting verts, interesting inverts, plants, geological formations, the “human factor”, etc, etc.

That said, I applaud the idea, Tim, but I think we’d best be served with a quarterly or semi-annual recurring theme like “what cool bugs did you see herping this year?” or “Did you see any neat mammals this quarter?
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There is also a pretty good website for laypersons and ologists alike:
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Spider Wasp gets Fishing Spider food for the kids (Tachypompilus with Dolomedes)
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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 7:49 am 
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Bill, I'm thinking more along the lines of all the cool stuff I stumble across that needs ID. (I would probably end up working that angle more than anything.)

Whaddya think Scott?

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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 8:12 am 
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I'm sure there are plenty of invert forums out there already....


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 8:23 am 
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Joe Farah wrote:
I'm sure there are plenty of invert forums out there already....


There are also other nut cases, but you remain one of my favorites. :lol:

I'd like to see an invert forum added to the mix. I very rarely visit the birding or fishing forums, but would definitely browse and occasionally post in a FHF invert forum.


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 8:43 am 
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Jason B wrote:

Josh - armadillos can carry leprosy



Is that REALLY a legitimate concern though, unless you're going to be snorting 'Dillo nasal discharge? Has anyone actually ever caught leprosy from one? Just curious. . .


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 9:03 am 
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Count me in!!!! :thumb:

By the way, no Leprosy infections have been found in the more than 2,500 armadillos examined in Florida...not a problem here. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 9:08 am 
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Thanks Daryl.

I guess if it means that invert pics (and wildflowers) are absent from field herping posts, then i'm all about it. It's bad enough having to look at all the amphibians.


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 9:27 am 
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It's bad enough having to look at all the amphibians.

Careful, now, Joe…… The amphibs are watching you…..

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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 9:37 am 
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Hmmmm... time to start bringing salt packets out with me.


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 10:42 am 
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Spiders are scary -
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But some bugs are cool
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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 12:37 pm 
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Herps are #1 in my book, but inverts (especially Hymenoptera) are a close 2nd.


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And a little of my seldom seen artistic side....

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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 12:50 pm 

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And here I completely misinterpreted the intended subject of this thread :)
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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 12:51 pm 
Invert forum would be cool in my book.
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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 1:12 pm 
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Not a Lepidoptera forum, but invert is OK by me.

Little Calisoga looking for a fight:

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Cool scorpion (Serradigitus?) from between some rock flakes:

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And to keep it herp related... Toad Bug:

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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 1:13 pm 

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Thanks for saving this thread Robert.


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 2:15 pm 
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Josh Holbrook wrote:
If we have inverts, we'll need a mammal forum :-D. I've got a couple of me-holding-armadillo shots laying around :beer:


I agree, 'cause don't you want to see what happens next?
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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 2:26 pm 
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Ok, Tim B,
You see what you started....
Ugly, scary spiders, scorpions, and snakes!!!! Eeeeeeewwww.
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"Yeah, I'm tawkin' ta you...."

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You're really buggin' me with this. Scariest of all, when periodic Cicadas attack:

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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 3:43 pm 
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I would like to see a bug forum too! Not interested in keeping bugs but i like photographing them when the herps aren't around.

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 3:57 pm 
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DO IT!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 4:38 pm 

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it brings up a good topic, I know that some people would want to keep this site pure, and just herp related, but personally I think a one stop shopping thing would be good,
more people would stay on the forum if maybe there were some more subforums.
alot of members are "all" around naturalists.
bugs,flowers,mammals,rocks, and the posts show this.
so yes, I think a mammal subforum would be great.
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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 5:06 pm 
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Heck, I'm ready to start now!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 5:18 pm 
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Jason B wrote:
I'm down for an invert forum.

Josh - armadillos can carry leprosy



I remember catching an armadillo well into my cups one night around a campfire. We scrambled around trying to catch it and I finally had one by the tail after stumbling a lot. Proud of my capture I showed it off to hear "hey don't those things cause leprosy?" I immediately dropped it...

Bugs are cool I spend the dogs days of summer hunting Odonata, and Spiders, and Leps.

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 6:22 pm 
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And something to fuel your nightmares...

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 6:41 pm 
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I forgot to add the arachnids!

Kansas. Argiope sp.
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Kansas scorpion
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These things were all over Arkansas!!

Brown Recluse Spider, Loxosceles reclusa
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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 7:18 pm 

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hey. Some of the inverts squick me out so I' d love it if they were segregated (wasp...centipedes...shudder)


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 7:32 pm 
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Yes. One invert and one invert forum, please. Can you get those back to me by Monday? :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Lep forum?
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 7:36 pm 
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I don't surf around on to many other forums, so I'd be all for another sub-forum. I like this thread already. Plus a lot of the critters would be found while herping.

I don't have any flutterbye photos so this will have to do. Sorry Paul.
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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 9:10 pm 
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"kangaroo turtles" now that is funny


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 9:46 pm 

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Caught these africanized bees sleeping right at dusk, yesterday.
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Haven't been able to herp that spot for 2 yrs now...cause of them... :x flipped 10 lizards in 10 min... :D
Mammals?...well ok... but they gotta be flipped... :crazyeyes:
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OR... getting ready to flip YOU... :shock:
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I confess... I do like butterflys... :oops: :crazyeyes: :D jim


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 Post subject: Re: Invert forum?
PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 3:16 am 
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For Paul. :mrgreen:

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Helli, how do you know they're Africanized? I've been told we have some hybridized down here and have seen a couple colonies that were (IMO) overly testy, but don't know what to look for beyond that. Any tips on what to ignore and what to avoid?
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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 4:39 am 
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Tim Borski wrote:
For Paul. :mrgreen:

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Helli, how do you know they're Africanized? I've been told we have some hybridized down here and have seen a couple colonies that were (IMO) overly testy, but don't know what to look for beyond that. Any tips on what to ignore and what to avoid?
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You know they're africanized when they're still stinging your dead carcass three days later.

I'd leave em' all alone - they're all over the cane fields in the prairie.


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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 4:55 am 
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What if we combined mammals and insects?????
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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 5:32 am 

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haha, hellihooks likes butterflies,
can we do a flower forum when this is all done too. I like flowers :oops:


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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 5:43 am 

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Sorry Paul

oh, i'm fine with spiders (well I hate flipping black widows but that's a safety thing). It's mostly things that A: Have the ability to fly as well as B: sting me repeatedly.
Centipedes...it's just a few too many surprises flipping :lol:

but + 1 for mammals and flowers! I see lots of neat flowers out herping in the spring/early summer.


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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 5:57 am 

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Tim Borski wrote:
Helli, how do you know they're Africanized? I've been told we have some hybridized down here and have seen a couple colonies that were (IMO) overly testy, but don't know what to look for beyond that. Any tips on what to ignore and what to avoid?
Thanks


Mostly a guess, I guess. We've had what the county declared 'killer bee' hives here in Hesperia before... pretty rare though. The house I'm currently working on, for instance, has a hive in the eaves right by the front door... very mellow... we sit and eat lunch not 10 feet away.. no problem.
These guys however, start swarming out of the hive bout as soon as you pull up in a car... and I don't stick around when bees get obviously agitated.. :roll: But it's cool... they are out in the boonies, at an abandoned building, far from other properties. And they keep the boards there from getting flipped... so now that I know when it's safe to approach... :crazyeyes: jim

Yes Millside...I do. Had a huge bug collection when I was a kid.... even a tarantula hawk/tarantula mounted in combat...which was a very cool behavior to witness. this was back in the day when you could take classes like entomology in high school... :roll: :D jim


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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 6:18 am 
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What self respecting field herper takes pics of bugs? Seriously? Well, here are a few of mine:

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I saw the above armadillo down in Texas a few months back. I was scared to pick it up, which is curious since i had just dragged a juvie gator out of a lake with my hands... So yeah, i'm more comfortable picking up an alligator than an armadillo.

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PostPosted: April 12th, 2011, 10:42 am 

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Bugs eh?
Bird poop caterpillar
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Moths
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Some of my stick insects.
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A few mammals, some snake food first.
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Now two strange hairy mammals.
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PostPosted: April 14th, 2011, 9:52 am 
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How about a general "other cool crap you find while herping" forum....? I dig the idea...


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PostPosted: April 14th, 2011, 11:56 am 
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What is this dude doing?
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I was photo'ing these guys
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And this guy jumped out at them. I didn't even realize he was in ambush!
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PostPosted: April 14th, 2011, 12:50 pm 
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Inverts? My time to shine:

Peanut Bug, Fulgoria laternaria:
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Leaf-mimic Mantid:
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Copiphora sp. (Copiphorinae)
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Forest Flatworm:
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Black and White Monkey Hopper, Paramastax sp. (Eumastacidae)
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Walking Stick:
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Emerald Moth Racheospila ecuadoriata (Geometridae)
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Scorching Sapphire, Phareas coeleste (Hesperiidae)
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Blue-Footed Evil Weevil:
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Planthopper, Mysidia sp. (Derbidae)
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Spider eating Spider:
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Ogre-Faced Spider and web:
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Phoneutria fera:
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PostPosted: April 14th, 2011, 10:02 pm 
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Mike: That stick insect looks like a grasshopper to me.

I am a big invert fan-but I think a "other random critters" forum would be the best bet for them and mammals. fish/birds get a free pass as they are so closely related. After all lizards in their colorful glory strutting their stuff are like little land fish. So perhaps birds are a bit of flying lizards.

I do like inverts though. If anyone stumbles on vinegaroons they are more than welcome to send them my way :)

Marisa: You are probably braver than most of the guys on this forum holding that centipede's head like that! Those are one of the few bugs that I feel uneasy handling. Their spazzy way of moving and thee fact that both ends can bite always makes them fun to deal with(but they are also frustrating as it is all to easy to maim them through rough handling!)


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PostPosted: April 14th, 2011, 11:34 pm 
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What is this dude doing?
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Looks like some species of sphinx moth larva burrowing in preparation to pupate underground.
Stunning photography BTW! :thumb:


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PostPosted: April 15th, 2011, 4:09 am 
White lined sphinx.


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