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Half the records associated with this request do not have specific locations listed in them. PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Update your records if they are included!
New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
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- Don Becker
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- Joined: June 7th, 2010, 4:21 am
- Location: Iowa
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Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
I was going to post this to the request page, but decided my rant was better posed here:
This dude is a phD and thats the best description he can come up with? How can anyone make a decision on their data based on this description? Requests should be a formal process, you know something that we take serious, not something typed up in 2 seconds. We need a page dedicated to "instructions for submitting a request", and when people contact Don for the first time they need to be directed to that page.
This dude is a phD and thats the best description he can come up with? How can anyone make a decision on their data based on this description? Requests should be a formal process, you know something that we take serious, not something typed up in 2 seconds. We need a page dedicated to "instructions for submitting a request", and when people contact Don for the first time they need to be directed to that page.
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
I didn't have a problem with his request, it sounds like an interesting project.
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
While I half agree with Nate, I think what NAHERP needs most is street cred at this point. If he was asking for a species of concern, I would expect a little more effort.
- Don Becker
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Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
This was just what he sent me via email, it technically fit the requirements for a data request. I had asked in the IB if anyone had comments about it, no one seemed to have any major issues. I have a copy of his CV if you want to review it.spinifer wrote:I was going to post this to the request page, but decided my rant was better posed here:
This dude is a phD and thats the best description he can come up with? How can anyone make a decision on their data based on this description? Requests should be a formal process, you know something that we take serious, not something typed up in 2 seconds. We need a page dedicated to "instructions for submitting a request", and when people contact Don for the first time they need to be directed to that page.
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
This should be a members only conversation.. IMO..
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- Don Becker
- Posts: 3312
- Joined: June 7th, 2010, 4:21 am
- Location: Iowa
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Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
Not everyone who submits data is a member of a chapter.
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
I am not referring to the data request post itself, just the conversation we are having about what the requester should or shouldn't do..
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- Don Becker
- Posts: 3312
- Joined: June 7th, 2010, 4:21 am
- Location: Iowa
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Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
Why? Not all requestors are members, and it would be nice if they could see what is going on so they know how to present requests in the future.
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
To avoid having data requesters see comments like this..
But I ll leave it alone if you guys want to do this publicly..
FundadThis dude is a phD and thats the best description he can come up with?
But I ll leave it alone if you guys want to do this publicly..
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
Personally, I think my data request format kicks butt. Check out the second one from today, or any of my three so far. Yes, I'm proud. Look for more from my contacts before Spring Migrations start!
- ratsnakehaven
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Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
I think the request sounds pretty good, at least for these not so sensitive herps. I would like to know who person works for, university, or whatever, if it were me giving the data. However, my concern is that of others I'm associated with that worry about who or what organization the data goes to. In that respect, I agree that we should be careful about who is requesting data and should have some requirements that help data owners understand the situation better. Just my 2 cents.
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- ratsnakehaven
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Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
brick911 wrote:Personally, I think my data request format kicks butt. Check out the second one from today, or any of my three so far. Yes, I'm proud. Look for more from my contacts before Spring Migrations start!
Brick, was that request for the Pine Barrens data on your form? If so, that one is pretty cool. Thanks...
Terry
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
Yeah... I've just been following the same format for all my requests. I actually ask a lot of questions and do the pertinent research, then write it up for them. Then I have them proofread it, change it, add to it, correct it, etc.
I find that that way, I am able to provide all the answers to the questions I would ask - already in the data request.
I'm not a fan of sitting back and waiting for people to come to us. I'd rather market us to the state agencies, and sell our product. I've been talking to Ph.D.'s and big shot biologists, and I'm in essence, a nobody. They have all been very nice and willing to do the extra work to get our info into their system.
I find that that way, I am able to provide all the answers to the questions I would ask - already in the data request.
I'm not a fan of sitting back and waiting for people to come to us. I'd rather market us to the state agencies, and sell our product. I've been talking to Ph.D.'s and big shot biologists, and I'm in essence, a nobody. They have all been very nice and willing to do the extra work to get our info into their system.
Re: New Data Request - Jan 20, 2012
Bob your data request does kick butt..
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