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 Post subject: Need Your State's Regulations for Breeding Native Species
PostPosted: January 6th, 2017, 7:27 pm 
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There is a group of folks in Arizona who are investigating the possibility of changing the AZ Game and Fish regulations to allow the captive breeding of native species for commercial purposes in AZ and outside of AZ.

Presently it is illegal to do this.

They need each state's Game and Fish regulations/laws pertaining to this exercise to assist them in drafting their proposal.

Also, if anyone has any links or pdf's of papers that prove or disprove that captive breeding benefits conservation please send them too.

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PostPosted: January 11th, 2017, 12:34 pm 
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Utah doesn't have any detailed information on breeding reptiles, they have more of a checklist that indicates possession, propagation and so forth:
https://wildlife.utah.gov/guidebooks/amphibians_reptiles/


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PostPosted: January 11th, 2017, 2:26 pm 
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PostPosted: January 13th, 2017, 4:47 pm 
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I'm not the best guy to ask regarding breeding/commercialization of native species here in TX, because currently I don't do that. That being said, here are some of Texas' byzantine regulations and attempts at interpretation by TPWD officials who sometimes don't really understand what the statutes say (e.g. their FAQs can at times be misleading interpretations of the no-kidding Texas Parks and Wildlife Code).

Texas recently (well, past 10 years or so) divided up many species of herps and other animals into a "white list" and a "black list," with regulations regarding what you can do with "white list" species being more permissive than those for the "black list."

The somewhat confusing and contradictory "official" TPWD FAQ on white/black list species

White List Species

Black List Species


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PostPosted: February 28th, 2017, 12:24 pm 
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Rick Staub should be consulted on this, for sure. I'll let him know about this post.

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PostPosted: April 5th, 2017, 10:28 am 
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Iowa is tricky. Garter Snakes are the only thing you can do any breeding with without any issue at all. T&E species you can't possess (even purchased) without a permit, and breeding would have to be mentioned on your permit. Game and bait species (frogs and turtles), require special licenses to sell them commercially. All other herps are considered Protected Non-Game. You can possess them only if you have proof they were not collected in Iowa. I asked guys in the legal division a while back about breeding, and they said it would be a documentation nightmare. You would have to show proof that each of the babies was not collected from Iowa. People within the state that purchase animals from you would probably need to maintain not only a receipt from you, but also proof of captive birth since the snake was bred within the state. Our laws really need to be updated, and are open to quite a bit of speculation in places.


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PostPosted: April 5th, 2017, 10:58 am 

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Interesting project Dave, I applaud and encourage you guys for taking it on.

A little added context on what Jeremy kindly linked you - the N, C, and P correspond to (as noted in the linked page) noncontrolled, controlled, and prohibited. Noncontrolled means you don't need to chase a permit from the agency to do this, controlled means you do have to chase a permit (called a Propagation Certificate Of Registration) to do this, and prohibited means you can't chase a permit because the agency cannot even give you permission (but you can still chase a variance from the Board, who can let you do whatever is not statutorily censured).

Here's a little unsolicited advice. The status quo (the agency position) usually exists for a reason (sometimes not necessarily a very good one, just "a one"). So you need to frame the stakeholder and the resource interests (not the positions - the interests) that are being served and those that are being neglected by the status quo, as well as those being served and neglected by the alternative(s) you're putting forth. If you can get the agency to do that also (agency and resource interests), you're in clover. "All you need to do" (ha ha...) is find the overlapping or aligned interests.

Step one, of course, is to come to terms internally. Bring a united front. I'm sure you know all this, but it might be reassuring to hear it from someone else.

Good luck, man.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your State's Regulations for Breeding Native Specie
PostPosted: April 7th, 2017, 7:19 pm 
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Thanks for the help. There is a local group/ committee of smart people that are slowly banging this out before we even bring it to AZGF.


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