With the arrival of a second child into our family, leaving mom alone to deal with the kids has become harder. No crazy herping for a couple years. My herping buddy Bert Vandebosch also has two kids and has been doing ‘family slash herping’ trips for some years now. This year I managed to convince my heat-shy girl to do a spring trip to Greece. Time for her to see how agreeable temperatures are and how wild flowers colour the landscape. So we joined Bert and Elfie and their sons Paco and Ben to the Peloponnese. The result was a much enjoyed trip in outstanding company. Wifes and kids got to know each other and got along very well, so the daddies could sneak out more than once to do their herping thing. Bert was hoping to add six species to his lifelist, for me it was a refreshing feeling to be able to herp without the ‘pressure’ of finding new species. The only goal I had was seeing an adult Greek salamander.
awaiting luggage in Athens
We arrived at the wonderful Chamaloni Cottages in the southwest of the peninsula after dark in the rain. This was the only rain we had, and Common Toad Bufo bufo and Green Toad Bufotes viridis were out and about on the roads. But we wanted to start the kids off with a not too short night, so no stops of further exploring on this day. Some huge toads and a baby Turkish Gecko Hemidactylus turcicus and then we were all off to bed.
The next morning we could see the beautiful surroundings of our lodging for the first time. Right in front of our cottage, lizard activity was noted soon – Peloponnese Wall Lizard Podarcis peloponnesiacus and Balkan Green Lizard Lacerta trilineata. Flipping a few stones delivered the first Limbless Skink Ophiomorus punctatissimus. It also did not take long before the first Glass Lizard Pseudopus apodus was caught.
mating Peloponnese Wall Lizard Podarcis peloponnesiacus
acting as if nothing happened
A beach visit produced a baby Balkan Whip Snake Hierophis gemonensis, Balkan Terrapin Mauremys rivulata and Greek Algyroides Algyroides moreoticus.
beach boys
young Speybroeck with young Balkan Whip Snake Hierophis gemonensis
You might think that someone who does a few thousand Fire Salamander Salamandra salamandra sightings a year would not be down for mandering on holiday, but you would be very wrong. The forecast did not promise any more rain, so the night after a rainy night was our best shot. Luckily, Benny Trapp was in the neighbourhood and told us about a site not too far from Kalamata. We met with him on site, where he had kept two salamanders from the (rainy) night before for us to see. But of course we wanted to find our own mander. So we surveyed the banks of a mountain brook at about 8°C. In and outside a concrete watertank plenty of Greek Stream Frog Rana graeca. A lot of salamander larvae of different sizes as well, but without rain and fairly low temperatures, no salamander madness. About to leave the place, however, I got lucky and spotted a very large female, definitely much larger than any terrestris I have ever seen. So my main target for the trip (as I had never seen an adult salamander in Greece before) was achieved.
large female Fire Salamander Salamandra salamandra
a subadult that Benny found the night before
The next morning we all went to a pretty waterfall nearby. Not much to see herpwise (just the regular lizards and some tadpoles), but fun in any case.
waterfall fun near Pylos
Then we moved on to the famous beach to look for African Chameleon Chamaeleo africanus. A nearby stream allowed the kids to do some terrapin spotting – European Pond Terrapin Emys orbicularis and Balkan Terrapin. Also plenty of Marsh Frogs Pelophylax ridibundus.
terrapin heaven (spot the Balkan Terrapin Mauremys rivulata!)
After a not too long search, Bert managed to spot two chameleon youngsters. Only five percent of the population gets through winter, so spotting a larger one in April is tough, especially given how the site is poorly managed since the protection program stopped.
Next was a nice uphill hike to a castle ruin with a few snakes getting away.
young knights during castle siege
boy on castle
great to be able to enjoy this magnificent view once more…
Back home, Bert and I traced a couple of Common Tree Frogs Hyla arborea in nearby water tanks and spotted a couple of tens of Turkish Geckoes, but forgot to take cameras and phones, so no photo.
The next morning, I wanted to revisit an olive grove near a cliff with a few artificial caves. These used to be a good spot to get close to fat dormouse, but only some bats were this time. We had found Peloponnese Slow Worm Anguis cephallonica in the olive grove before, so as this was one of the six new species Bert was hoping to see, we hang around for a while. No slow worm, but a few Hermann’s Tortoises and a sweet Leopard Snake Zamenis situla.
a perfect grove
Bas and Hermann – Hermann’s Tortoise Testudo hermanni
situla admiration
Leopard Snake Zamenis situla
and after 37 times ‘Can I hold it, daddy? Can I? Can I? Please, can I hold it?’…
The following day, we went to the Polylimnio waterfalls. Beautiful spot and an excellent place to spot Greek Rock Lizard Hellenolacerta graeca.
everyone (but me) at Polylimnio
Greek Rock Lizard Hellenolacerta graeca
Greek Rock Lizard Hellenolacerta graeca
daddy selfie
Back at the house, Bert managed to catch an Eastern Montpellier Snake Malpolon insignitus he had already spotted in the morning.
Mr Malpolon and his catch
boy meets Malpie
Eastern Montpellier Snake Malpolon insignitus
Eastern Montpellier Snake Malpolon insignitus
girl meets doggie
Bert and I took the boys out after dark and found some regular species.
frogging is fun!
The next morning, Bert and I took the boys to Benny’s favourite viper spot, but (as in 2006) no vipers for us. The trip’s first Snake-eyed Skink Ablepharus kitaibelii and Marginated Tortoises Testudo marginata were of course appreciated.
emerging Marginated Tortoise Testudo marginata
the waiting game- chapter n° 156: the tortoise
Back to get the girls and then a lovely time at our very own pocket beach.
boys just wanna have fun
at the end of yet another eventful day
The next morning we decided to do a little hike starting from our accommodation. Only a few steps out of the door and another Leopard Snake crawled in front of me.
Leopard Snake Zamenis situla
Leopard Snake Zamenis situla
hiking makes baby sleepy
The rest of the hike produced a few adult Balkan Whip Snakes, Worm Snake Xerotyphlops vermicularis and a highly appreciated juvenile Nose-horned Viper Vipera ammodytes.
Balkan Whip Snake Hierophis gemonensis
go!
as flipped – Worm Snake Xerotyphlops vermicularis
spaghetti wrangling
precious gem – juvenile Nose-horned Viper Vipera ammodytes
same
same
habitat
young Balkan Green Lizard Lacerta trilineata
Back at the cottage, some further ‘garden herping’ produced a couple of tortoises.
get into the grove
wild chicken chase
Another day, another small beach, with nothing special.
Greek Algyroides Algyroides moreoticus
Back at the cottage, a bit of late afternoon herping had me grabbing a Nose-horned Viper in shed and a sizeable Grass Snake Natrix natrix. Bert added a juvenile Grass Snake to the findings.
Nose-horned Viper Vipera ammodytes
habitat
man with viper
Bert with chunky smeller – Grass Snake Natrix natrix
The next day, a bit warm already when we hit Koroni castle. Bert spotted a Dahl’s Whip Snake Platyceps najadum, but unfortunately no such beauty was caught. Great views across the bay towards snowy mountain tops above the sea.
view across Kalamata bay from Koroni castle
Elfie and Ben snowspotting
the mighty Taygetos in the distance
Peloponnese Wall Lizard Podarcis peloponnesiacus
Greek Algyroides Algyroides moreoticus
hiking again, sleepy again
Bert and I decided to do a somewhat naive Cat Snake Telescopus fallax search. First to a little church hinted by Benny. No idea if we were at the wrong church, but the one we found was definitely not snake material, so we decided to hike up to the castle ruin where we had been a couple of days earlier. No snake and even hardly a gecko to be found, but (apart from the ones on the road during that first rainy night) our only Green Toad on top of the hill with no fresh water to be seen.
Green Toad Bufotes viridis
Back down at the chameleon beach, we checked a building that produced Kotschy’s Gecko Mediodactylus kotschyi before, but only Turkish Gecko this time. Strange… Soon, we were exploring the dune area and found some chameleons.
African Chameleon Chamaeleo africanus
African Chameleon Chamaeleo africanus
same
same
At a small ruin, finally three Kotschy’s Geckoes. Weird to find so few.
Kotschy’s Gecko Mediodactylus kotschyi at last
We decided to do the relatively long drive to the Taygetos foothills and visit a boa and a slow worm site. Maybe a bit of a gamble, but only minutes after getting out of the car, I flipped six baby Sand Boas Eryx jaculus together under the same stone. Great!
this guy seems happy…
best flip of my life – six Sand Boa Eryx jaculus babies under a single stone
Sand Boa Eryx jaculus
Sand Boa Eryx jaculus
flip till you drop
A curvy drive uphill to a small monastery with lots of Greek Rock Lizard fairly quickly produced two Peloponnese Slow Worms, so the long drive payed off for both the targeted species. Bit strange that we didn’t find slow worms elsewhere.
higher up in the Taygetos Mountains
Peloponnese Slow Worm Anguis cephallonica
With these additions, our overall herping success turned out fairly decent. No additional species were found after this. We did not really try hard for Dice Snake, but a Four-lined Snake would have been nice. You can’t have it all with only two herping daddies.
the sight which causes tons of ‘again no quatuorlineata!’ cursing – Glass Lizard Pseudopus apodus
Greek Algyroides Algyroides moreoticus
mating European Pond Terrapins Emys orbicularis
game over
Species list
Fairly early in the year, but given the limited crew (2) and search time (perhaps less than 25% of that on genuine herping trips), we were very happy. Snake finds may be more frequent a week or two later, but eight species is not too bad. For years, I had been longing to visit this area in spring, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
1. Fire Salamander Salamandra salamandra
2. Common Toad Bufo bufo
3. Green Toad Bufotes viridis
4. Common Tree Frog Hyla arborea
5. Greek Stream Frog Rana graeca
6. Marsh Frog Pelophylax ridibundus
7. Hermann’s Tortoise Testudo hermanni
8. Marginated Tortoise Testudo marginata
9. Balkan Terrapin Mauremys rivulata
10. European Pond Terrapin Emys orbicularis
11. African Chameleon Chamaeleo africanus
12. Turkish Gecko Hemidactylus turcicus
13. Kotschy’s Gecko Mediodactylus kotschyi – surprisingly scarce
14. Greek Algyroides Algyroides moreoticus
15. Balkan Green Lizard Lacerta trilineata
16. Greek Rock Lizard Hellenolacerta graeca
17. Peloponnese Wall Lizard Podarcis peloponnesiacus
18. Snake-eyed Skink Ablepharus kitaibelii
19. Limbless Skink Ophiomorus punctatissimus – not too many at 2 or 3 sites
20. Glass Lizard Pseudopus apodus – abundant as always
21. Peloponnese Slow Worm Anguis cephallonica – 2 at a single site only
22. Worm Snake Xerotyphlops vermicularis – only about 5
23. Sand Boa Eryx jaculus – 6 babies
24. Balkan Whip Snake Hierophis gemonensis – only 3-5 caught
25. Dahl’s Whip Snake Platyceps najadum – 1
26. Leopard Snake Zamenis situla – 2
27. Grass Snake Natrix natrix – 2
28. Eastern Montpellier Snake Malpolon monspessulanus – only 1 caught
29. Nose-horned Viper Vipera ammodytes – 2 caught, one probable escape
trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
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Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
Fantastic! That is a lot of great species to see. And wonderful you are getting the whole family involved. I understand the challenges of herping trips with a couple young kids, but you are doing it right! Mike
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Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
Wonderfull pictures!
And always a pleasure to see the fascination for the too often underrated or feared animals in kids faces!
best way to conservation...
cheers
And always a pleasure to see the fascination for the too often underrated or feared animals in kids faces!
best way to conservation...
cheers
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Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
Okay, Jeroen,
This post is superb, especially in this current forum desert.
Definitely the best post in a long time for story, pictures, herp diversity, and, the Pièce De Résistance, the kids. You took us with you all the way. They add a dimension of depth that we often leave out.
This post is superb, especially in this current forum desert.
Definitely the best post in a long time for story, pictures, herp diversity, and, the Pièce De Résistance, the kids. You took us with you all the way. They add a dimension of depth that we often leave out.
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Thanks for the replies, gentlemen! It's such a joy to share some of the herping passion with my son. Hope it lasts a little longer...
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Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
I'm going to Greece next year, that's all there is to it
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Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
That six-flip Eryx.... jeez
– Justin
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Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
Awesome job as a herper and a dad! Great finds!
Re: trip report Peloponnese (Greece) April 2017
Love it! I feel like I was there, and it was great, believe me.
John
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