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Looks like you had a great trip, especially for March!
You never know until you go, right?

That shot of the longnose on the crawl with the saguaro in the background is sweet.

Looking forward to seeing part 3!

Happy Herping! :thumb:
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Crotalus atrox. On C. scutulatus the white bands are twice as wide as the black bands.

Habitat can be another clue. C. scutulatus prefers flat areas with deep soils. Its almost never found near rocks or steep mountainous terrain.
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Porter I loved reading your story, sounds like you had an awesome time! Especially for March! And I second Bryan, that rattler is definitely atrox. I’m not an expert herper yet but I feel like I am en expert on Diamondback and Mojave rattlers because I see them ALL THE DANG TIME here in AZ. Im sure they’re cool for people who don’t see them all the time but I almost get annoyed when I see them because about 8/10 snakes that I see is a Mojave or diamondback rattler haha. I try my best to appreciate them though.
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afaik there aren't any documented atrox x scutulatus or scutulatus x oreganus hybrids. There is a hybrid zone in New Mexico where scutulatus x viridis hybrids are regularly found. ruber and atrox are each others closest relatives. It makes sense that there would be some hybridization where they co-occur.
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I've totally forgot how to use this forum. I looked around for the quotes but didn't find it immediately. Now I got it. Thanks for jogging my memory porter.
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