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Mark
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Mystery Reed Snake

Post by Mark » June 2nd, 2019, 9:40 am

Hi there,

This past winter I found three of these reed snakes while on separate night nights in Tawau Hills Park in Sabah, Borneo. However, despite there being at least locally common, seemingly, nobody - including a couple Malaysian herpetologists, can ID them to species. Everyone is agreed that they're some kind of reed snake (Calamaria), but the exact species remains a mystery. So has anyone saw this species before in Borneo and/or knows what species it is?

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Re: Mystery Reed Snake

Post by Mark » June 2nd, 2019, 9:41 am

*night hikes

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Re: Mystery Reed Snake

Post by Kookamongus » June 3rd, 2019, 10:38 am

Looks to me like the variable reedsnake (c. lumbricoidea) though a lot thicker and more yellow bands than they usually have

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Re: Mystery Reed Snake

Post by Mark » June 4th, 2019, 12:19 pm

Thanks, although do variable reed snakes normally have yellow bands at all??? Someone found and posted a photo on Flickr of this same species (a black reed snake with yellow bands) in the Danum Valley (which is next door to Tawau Park) and listed it as a variable reed snake. However all other verifiable photos - like pictures from proper books and documents, of variable reed snakes don’t show any yellow bands at all. So I’m a little confused. So Kookamongus have you yourself saw these black and yellow banded reed snakes (ostensibly variable reed snakes) in Borneo? Or has anyone else?

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Re: Mystery Reed Snake

Post by dendrelaphis » June 6th, 2019, 10:03 am

No idea, I have never seen anything like it (neither in "the snakes of Borneo", "Amphibiens and Reptiles of Mount Kinabulu" or "Amphibien und Reptilien Sudost Asiens"). It might be an undescribed species. However, without morphological data, it's impossible to say

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Re: Mystery Reed Snake

Post by Mark » June 11th, 2019, 8:27 am

Thanks for your input. Well I guess it'll remain a mystery for now - unless these are just usually coloured variable reed snakes

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